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Perhaps you could get CIS to supply a screen editor? <grin> I just leave my
misspellings, since it's sucn a *astonishing* pain in the butt to try and edit
things with a line editor (sound of dinosaurs and pre-cambrian swamps (bubbles
of marsh gas, actually) in the distance)… Man, line editors… Yech! You'd
think CIS would put in a screen editor. <shaking head> –Ben–
Ben,
They do have a screen editor, it's the EDIT option rather than the SED
option for your editor. It's old name was FILGE…File Generator.
Don
They have a screen editor ??? You can cursor around???? Really??? you're
kidding me! Tell me this is true…. please? –Ben–
Ben,
Well no, you can't cursor around, but it's much better than SED which
is the line editor and gives you those silly line numbers.
Don
Seems to me then that it's about as much of a screen editor as WP is a word
processor. In name only. –Ben–
Ahh… that's better… was thinking I'd missed something in the dics or
something. Yes… it is a line editor. The line numbers make no difference to
that part of it.
-larry
EDIT is not much more than SED without visible line numbers. EDIT is VERY
powerful (if you know the command set), but, in no way could it be considered a
'screen editor'.
Steve,
Ok…I'll go along with that. Yes, it's certainly not a full featured
screen editor, but it's much more powerful than SED and very close to a screen
editor without the cursor controls.
Don
Gee Don,
I use EDIT (FILGE, FLUDGE, whatever)… and as far as I can see, it's a line
editor.
-larry
Larry,
Yes, it's a line editor in the same sense that vi is a line editor, the
only thing that's missing is direct cursor movement support, but with its
capability to move around the file via commands…it's almost as useful.
Example….I'm typing this line, and notice that the 2nd line of the
file says 'lane editor' rather than 'line editor'. I go to the beginning of a
line and type /pos2 and that places the cursor at the beginning of that
particular line. I then type /c/lane/line and have corrected my mistake. Then
I type /b and go back to the bottom of the file and keep on entering text.
I believe there is even a way to chain commands together…but I've not
tried that…so don't know for sure. It also has search capabilities and much
more.
When I get home tonight, I'll dig out the manual on it and see what
else I can come up with.
Don
The delimiter to chain commands is the comma. However, without direct cursor
control, it is NOT a screen editor.
Okay, what's YOUR definition of a "screen editor"? Filge certainly doesn't
meet MINE.
Rick
Rick,
Ok, ok…I give….yes, FILGE (EDIT) is not a 'screen editor', but it's
a heck of a lot better than SED *from my experience* and other than cursor
control…it does have many features of a real screen editor.
Is that better?
Don
There has been a conversation going on among folks in CIS about screen oriented
editors for ages. Lots of people want them, some people think it would be too
processor intensive (rubbish), others don't care. The debate resurfaces every
quarter year or so. So far, no editor. Part of the problem is that even if
they had one, only certain people/computers/programs would be able to use it.
As far as typos, the sort of editing I'm talking about is simply backing up and
fixing your mistakes before you hit return. You don't even NEED an editor on
the system for that… just a terminal program with a local line buffer and a
backspace key. That takes care of all the typos we catch before hitting
return, which is probably better than 90% of them. (Guess)
Rick
Yeah… funny thing…. this term just happens to have that very thing. <grin>
–Ben–