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MT-32 Wish

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#166From: Brian YamanakaJul 14, 1988 6:35 PM
I've recently purchased a Roland MT-32 and am looking for a good and inexpensive patch editor/librarian. Anyone have any ideas? Right now I'm just playing with presets and what great presets they are. Also, does anyone know of anywhere I could get some great support for the Amiga and MIDI? Any suggestions appreciated, Brian <.><.> \/
#182From: George KingJul 14, 1988 10:52 PM
Great choice in hardware! Dr. T and Sounquest both have Editor/librarians fore MT-32, but I don't have either, yet. From what I have read, Soundquest requires an MPU-401 interface. What software are you currently using? I have Dynamic Studio but am not at all pleased. Oh well…………GTK
#188From: Brian YamanakaJul 15, 1988 12:35 PM
I am currently using only DMCS. My sequencer software is back at the ol' U of I while I am on summer vacation. Usually I use Soundscape, but I'm not completely happy with it. It could use a more friendly MIDI event editor. I guess we all have to wait for Music-X, but I'm looking for Dr. T's KCS. Brian <.><.> \/
#199From: George KingJul 15, 1988 7:33 PM
I just picked up Dr. T's MT-32 editor/librarian. At $149 it's a bit expensive, but it REALLY does the job. Seems to multi-task ok, should work especially well with Dr. T's Keyboard Controlled Sequencer, ( wish I could afford to find out ) but haven't done too well yet with Deluxe Music Construction Set. You set up the timbres with Dr. T's and then go to DMCS, which doesn't send system exclusive data so it won't change your settings. Other software might be able to use the libraries directly. ( I hope!!! ) The user interface is quite functional without being TOO friendly, as in; Are you sure ? – Are you sure you're sure ? – Last chance ! etc. Most parameters can be set by either mouse or keyboard, which is MUCH better than having to move sliders around for everything. Also the mouse can be used to play the sounds, either the whole voice or just selected partial(s) or you can use an external MIDI device. MIDI Merge is also supported, so you could use a MIDI keyboard or sequencer to play while you edit the voice. All parameters are shown graphically in a sensible ( to me ) fashion, and Roland's somewhat unusual terminology is maintained. There is even a window for editing the rythm channel so you can use the notes which previously gave no sound or set the pan and reverb and so on. It is copy protected in the sense that you must keep the original disk as a key after you run the program from your backup or hard disk. Most important – no attempt was made to conform the MT-32 parameters to match the existing editors, it was either a remake of the Roland D50 editor or else it's a whole new program. GTK
#301From: Brian YamanakaJul 18, 1988 12:35 PM
Thanks for the info! Brian
#231From: Phil SaundersJul 16, 1988 4:59 PM
I have the Dr T's software and recommend it for the MT-32. You really need a computer to use the MT-32 to its full potential. As to storing [A or trading voices, I think that's a good idea, but I'm not sure if this is the right place. (perhaps MIDI forum?) The format of the patches might be a problem, but it is possible to convert them form one format to another (I've done this with DX-7 voices). Rick, do you have any advice on where to find patches?
#239From: George KingJul 16, 1988 7:49 PM
After playing with Dr. T's editor and Deluxe Music ALL NIGHT and DAY I can recommend Dr. T for the MT-32 without qualification. The possible combinations are endless and I now think the cost is justified. Both programs multi-task well, with just one glitch the first time I tried, so you can experiment with Dr. T while DMCS is playing the score. Very nice!!! GTK
#309From: Rodney OkanoJul 18, 1988 7:12 PM
I'm thinking about picking up an MT32 and using it with Deluxe Music. Can you tell me if the MT32 has both MIDI-IN and MIDI-THRU? I'd like to use it in combination with my synth. Also has anyone used Sound Quest's MT32 editor/librarian?
#362From: Brian YamanakaJul 20, 1988 12:09 PM
Rodney, The MT-32 provides a thru, in, & out. Again I recommend this unit for any hobbyist or professional who just wants more voices. Brian
#385From: George KingJul 21, 1988 2:46 AM
MT-32 has in out and thru. watch out for Sound Quest, I believe it requires an MPU-401 interface (parallel) whereas most do not.
#265From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJul 17, 1988 11:13 AM
Not offhand, Phil. The MIDI forum would certainly be the best bet, but as you pointed out, format can be a problem. On the other tentacle, Dr. T's is pretty generic and universal, so I'd wager that you'll find lots of stuff in that format. Why don'tcha GO MIDI and take a look? And if you leave a message, tell 'em I sent ya. 😉 Rick
#369From: Phil SaundersJul 20, 1988 6:04 PM
but very little for the MT-32. I'm waiting on a new modem to try downloading some of the files. It seemed that there were very few new (past three months) files, but I might have been looking in the wrong place. By the way, I have a question. Can you use any of the various drum programs for the Amiga to write MIDI drum patterns (for the MT-32 or other drum machine Ideally, you should be able to see all the voices (of the drum) and when each sound is playing. Once you've got the pattern the way you want it, be able to save either the pattern or the MIDI data to recreate it. Can any of the current programs do this? I get tired of editing using the drum machines controls or trying to edit MIDI event list data….
#186From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJul 15, 1988 10:02 AM
What sort of support you need, Brian? This is the best place to ask, far as I know. Rick
#189From: Brian YamanakaJul 15, 1988 12:42 PM
I'm mainly looking for special interest groups that I can contact for software and patches for the MT-32 in addition to those people on CIS. I would especially like info about groups in Hawaii (where I live) and in Illinois (Urbana-Champaign where I go to school). Brian
#192From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJul 15, 1988 5:12 PM
Sorry, can't help you there. You of course realize that you are talking about a _VERY_ tiny slice of humanity: Amiga-owners-who-patch-edit-MT-32s is a subset of a subset, if you will. We DO have a listing of Amiga user groups, but that doesn't mean that even a single person in any particular group even does MIDI, much less owns an MT-32. You might want to ask in the MIDI forum (GO MIDI); there should be a lot of MT-32 owners there, and maybe some of them know about user groups in your area. Good luck to you in your search in any event, and if we can be of any help here, please don't hesitate to ask. Rick
#200From: George KingJul 15, 1988 7:52 PM
Tiny slice is probably accurate but the Amy-Mt32 combo is about as much bang for the buck as I've seen. Much too good for the philistines, but I guess we should give the benefit of the doubt to Amiga ]sers. For all who want to know, the Roland MT-32 has 8 channels for music, each of which is polyphonic, up to a total of 32 notes at once from this machine, not counting the seperate drum channel. And what GREAT sounds! All this for around $600.
#264From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJul 17, 1988 11:13 AM
Right. I did a demo a couple of months ago at a local users group focusing on the power you can have with the Amiga and one single external module. My main thrust was the FB01, which gives you 12 voices with the Amiga, and can be had in the $300 range easily. I considered using the MT-32, but I wanted the lowest cost approach for the demo. I did listen carefully to the MT-32, though, and was suitably impressed. Rick
#302From: Brian YamanakaJul 18, 1988 12:37 PM
Thanks. I'll ask around in the MIDI forum, but Amiga owners seem scarce there, or at least they don't say very much. Brian
#304From: Richard Rae/SYSOPJul 18, 1988 2:14 PM
Oh, they're over there, quite a few of them. But we don't say much, you're right. 8) Rick