CompuServe Thread

#New, More Advertising

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#56127From: Ethan SolomitaJul 7, 1989 9:46 AM
Allen, for CBM to have people regularly on all sorts of networks, Commodore would not only have to pay those networks but also those employees for just being on networks. "to do one thing means that you have to take away from another. What would you cut?" — Ethan
#56435From: Allen MittsJul 9, 1989 5:11 PM
(SIGH) OK Ethan, let's try another angle. When you wanna find out about Music-X, you can hop on over to the AmigaVendor Forum and ask Mike. When you wanna ask a question about M2, same forum, ask Martin. I know Mike is an employee of MI, so I'm sure they are are paying him to represent them here on CIS (as well as PLink). Last time I checked, CBM was a bit larger than MI. Regards, Allen
#56459From: Ethan SolomitaJul 9, 1989 6:42 PM
I'm not trying to argue that Commodore necessarily shouldn't be on the forums. I think that CBM should probably designate one for monitoring and pay someone to be on it regularly. But to ask them to be everywhere isn't really right. Don't forget that the money must come from somewhere. There are a lot of things we'd like Commodore to do but if representing the Amiga on several forums would prevent commodore from placing an ad, or cause development of a new piece of hardware or software to be delayed, then its not worthwhile. Also, the example on AmigaVendor isn't a valid comparison. Each company needs only to be concerned with 1 message area and data library. The number of messages that go through one of those message areas is far fewer than the number which go through AmigaTech (which is what you want CBM to monitor). Perhaps Commodore has the money for an official representative, and if they do then pay Andre's compuserve bill. But I don't know that they have that money to spare and neither does anyone else here. — Ethan
#56528From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJul 9, 1989 11:25 PM
Ethan, Commodore does have a forum on CIS, and a representative to take care of it. The Forum is called CBMSER, and the representative is Greg Givler. Betty
#56618From: Allen MittsJul 10, 1989 7:15 PM
> … but if representing the Amiga on several forums would prevent Commodore from placing an ad, or cause development of a new piece of hardware or software to be delayed, then it's not worthwhile. Ethan, Thought I'd 'hi-lite' that one. I really can't remember a CBM product coming out when promised. As for the ad arguement, that doesn't really hold water either (considering the poor (or nonexistant) quality of their ad campaigns). I might mention too that CBM use to be represented here on CIS (CBM forums), as well as QLink (don't know if they support either now). I consider being online just another form of advertising. CIS (alone) has over 500,000 users now. That's a lot of prospective customers. CBM has a great product in the Amiga line, but if people don't know about it, they aren't going to buy it. (I've already documented here at least one case where a major music software developer had NO IDEA a computer like the Amiga existed.) Regards, Allen
#56646From: Ethan SolomitaJul 10, 1989 9:42 PM
You say that being on forums like this is advertising for CBM. Who would CBM be advertising to: Amiga owners! That's pointless. Of course there is always the non-Amiga owner who strays in here. That poor person is then inundated by 15 people all insisting that they should buy an Amiga 2000, no well maybe the 2000HD, but well if you have the money… I don't think that Andre's main function here is advertising. You said that there are no good ads and that products are already delayed. So what difference would it make if money were taken from advertising/R&D to pay Andre, et al to be on fora like this? Come on. I don't need to answer that. — Ethan
#56653From: steven a. wartofskyJul 10, 1989 10:20 PM
Ethan (and everybody), what sells computers is not hardware but software, or better yet, "software solutions." People are going to go out and replace their C-64s with Amigas for games because there's *lots* of fantastic gaming software out there, to address *all* sorts of interests, and people hearing about those games are going to get interested, get demos, and then get hooked. Same goes for all the other markets, be they word processing, data-basing, or video. Without the software out there to promote special activities, without side-by-side comparisons of Amiga solutions to the main pc tasks people get involved in, the Amiga just ain't going to sell no matter *how* many representatives from *anywhere* people get on line. sw
#56619From: Allen MittsJul 10, 1989 7:15 PM
Ah, I see from the next message that Betty has given us the asnwer about CBM and the CBM forum. nice to know that it still exists. I wonder how much Amiga traffic there is over there? Regards, Allen