#New, More Advertising
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Allen, for CBM to have people regularly on all sorts of networks,
Commodore would not only have to pay those networks but also those employees
for just being on networks. "to do one thing means that you have to take away
from another. What would you cut?"
— Ethan
(SIGH) OK Ethan, let's try another angle. When you wanna find out about
Music-X, you can hop on over to the AmigaVendor Forum and ask Mike. When you
wanna ask a question about M2, same forum, ask Martin. I know Mike is an
employee of MI, so I'm sure they are are paying him to represent them here on
CIS (as well as PLink). Last time I checked, CBM was a bit larger than MI.
Regards,
Allen
I'm not trying to argue that Commodore necessarily shouldn't be on the
forums. I think that CBM should probably designate one for monitoring and pay
someone to be on it regularly. But to ask them to be everywhere isn't really
right. Don't forget that the money must come from somewhere. There are a lot of
things we'd like Commodore to do but if representing the Amiga on several
forums would prevent commodore from placing an ad, or cause development of a
new piece of hardware or software to be delayed, then its not worthwhile.
Also, the example on AmigaVendor isn't a valid comparison. Each company
needs only to be concerned with 1 message area and data library. The number of
messages that go through one of those message areas is far fewer than the
number which go through AmigaTech (which is what you want CBM to monitor).
Perhaps Commodore has the money for an official representative, and if they do
then pay Andre's compuserve bill. But I don't know that they have that money to
spare and neither does anyone else here.
— Ethan
Ethan,
Commodore does have a forum on CIS, and a representative to take care of it.
The Forum is called CBMSER, and the representative is Greg Givler.
Betty
> … but if representing the Amiga on several forums would prevent
Commodore from placing an ad, or cause development of a new piece of
hardware or software to be delayed, then it's not worthwhile.
Ethan,
Thought I'd 'hi-lite' that one. I really can't remember a CBM product coming
out when promised. As for the ad arguement, that doesn't really hold water
either (considering the poor (or nonexistant) quality of their ad campaigns).
I might mention too that CBM use to be represented here on CIS (CBM forums), as
well as QLink (don't know if they support either now).
I consider being online just another form of advertising. CIS (alone) has over
500,000 users now. That's a lot of prospective customers. CBM has a great
product in the Amiga line, but if people don't know about it, they aren't going
to buy it. (I've already documented here at least one case where a major music
software developer had NO IDEA a computer like the Amiga existed.)
Regards,
Allen
You say that being on forums like this is advertising for CBM. Who would
CBM be advertising to: Amiga owners! That's pointless. Of course there is
always the non-Amiga owner who strays in here. That poor person is then
inundated by 15 people all insisting that they should buy an Amiga 2000, no
well maybe the 2000HD, but well if you have the money…
I don't think that Andre's main function here is advertising. You said
that there are no good ads and that products are already delayed. So what
difference would it make if money were taken from advertising/R&D to pay Andre,
et al to be on fora like this? Come on. I don't need to answer that.
— Ethan
Ethan (and everybody), what sells computers is not hardware but software, or
better yet, "software solutions." People are going to go out and replace their
C-64s with Amigas for games because there's *lots* of fantastic gaming software
out there, to address *all* sorts of interests, and people hearing about those
games are going to get interested, get demos, and then get hooked. Same goes
for all the other markets, be they word processing, data-basing, or video.
Without the software out there to promote special activities, without
side-by-side comparisons of Amiga solutions to the main pc tasks people get
involved in, the Amiga just ain't going to sell no matter *how* many
representatives from *anywhere* people get on line.
sw
Ah, I see from the next message that Betty has given us the asnwer about CBM
and the CBM forum. nice to know that it still exists. I wonder how much Amiga
traffic there is over there?
Regards,
Allen