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#Commodore stock

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#58907From: Marc BarrettJul 25, 1989 11:45 PM
Why has Commodore's stock gone into the empty elevator shaft? It has dropped down to 10.50 points, from a 52-week high of 19 points. As a Commodore shareholder, I am quite worried about what has happened to this stock. Naturally, I have heard absolutely nothing from Commodore. They only send me information about the stock whenever they post a profit. The never send me any information whatsoever when they post a loss. BTW, what is the official reason for Commodore's recent losses? There have been quite a few discussions here about the possibility of a buyout of Commodore by Hewlett Packard. With Commodore's strong manufacturing facilities, weak management (understatement of the year), and low stock value, this does make Commodore a takeover target. Heck, I would approve a buyout of Commodore by anybody, if they would market the Amiga seriously, and fire the current president, CEO, and board. What is the latest about Commodore and Hewlett Packard? Marc Barrett (71131,2425)
#58953From: Dave LipshutzJul 26, 1989 9:52 AM
Commodore stock is down because the company issued a press release stating that they were expecting a loss for the June quarter. This loss, if you read into the release a bit, ought to be no more than 30 cents a share or so. The official statement was that for the year ending June, 1989 profits would be nominally above the year ending June 1988, implying a 30 cent a share loss, maybe less, for the June quarter. Reasons cited were, currency considerations (the dollar is higher which makes German Marks less valuable in US currency, and the timing of purchases (when the yen was higher). The release also cites a larger than anticipated decline in consumer sales, as well as an increase in operating expenses reflecting new marketing programs. My own sense of it is that whereas c-64 and amiga 500 sales are slowing, Amiga 2000 particularly in professional and niche markets are doing pretty good. The company normally only communicates with shareholders twice a year–the annual report, and a midyear report. In the last 3 years the company produced profits in every quarter, so if youve owned the stock less than 3 years, you would only have heard about profits. As to the Hewlett Packard thing….that was the subject of a few paragraphs in the rumor section of the latest info magazine. No one really knows, and I have heard nothing else that would lead me to belive it is more than just a rumor.
#59061From: Ethan SolomitaJul 26, 1989 11:34 PM
The loss is official. I don't know how much it was, though. There was an initial drop on the expectation and now this continuous plummet after the official info. — Ethan
#58971From: Steve GoldmanJul 26, 1989 12:57 PM
Marc, It has dropped because Commodore has announced twice in the last few months that it is expecting fourth quarter losses — based upon money excange rates and also because of a softening consumer market in certain "key" markets. STeve
#59111From: Dave Haynie/C128 LandJul 27, 1989 12:43 PM
The reason is stated in the Wall Street Journal that the reason is that the dollar is strong in European markets so the exchange rate shanges the way our profits look. I am not a stock broker or anything like that, and don't really understand it but that is the reason given. Greg Givler Commodore Online Support
#59271From: Jul 28, 1989 2:42 PM
Greg, Dunno if you've been here before, but it's good to see someone represent CBM technically. No offense Andre. // \X/ Lynn
#59118From: Rob SalmonJul 27, 1989 2:14 PM
Right now, I think the November $12 1/2 options are a much better buy than the stock. I put some money where my mouth is today, getting some at 5/8th's. A technical reaction to the price drop ought to double the option price. The stock came off the floor (9 3/4) today on VERY GOOD and steady buying. Rob.