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#HP Deskjet w/ Amigas

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#114284From: Steven D. KapplinJul 24, 1990 5:40 PM
Mike, Yep, knew about the envelopes. However, someone else noted that he was using laserlabels, or some such. A product made specifically for doing labels in a laser printer. So apparently there is actually some label products out there designed to run through machines like the DJ and won't gum up the works (pun intended). Steve
#114303From: Mike SchillerJul 24, 1990 7:26 PM
Steve: I know of laser labels, I use them in my laser printer all the time. I was under the impression that the DJ couldn't handle them though. (I thought it had something to do with the sharp bend that the paper takes through the DJ) -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#114327From: Paul GerhardtJul 24, 1990 9:12 PM
Steve, I did hold my breath as I ran the first one through, but I am on my second box of 3M Laser/Copier Lables and I have had no problems. -Paul-
#114410From: Thomas HoladayJul 25, 1990 2:30 PM
You are so right. Do _not_ use Laserjet labels in an HP Deskjet. Laserjet labels have an extra-tough glue (so that they don't melt off when they pass through the laserjet's heat fusing phase) and are very, very difficult to remove from the Deskjet's paper-feeding reels. I beleive there are now Deskjet labels (HP used to recommend Avery).
#114422From: Steven D. KapplinJul 25, 1990 4:14 PM
Mike, Don't know. Someone else had left me a message about them. Said he was using them successfully. Perhaps you might give them a try and see if they work for you. I've never tried them, myself. Steve
#114779From: Paul GerhardtJul 28, 1990 2:48 PM
The labels I have been using are a new line of 3M laser/copier labels called "The Problem Solver". Ths adhesive is very similar in properties to "Post It" labels. They can be easily removed and repositioned. So I doubt that they could "gum up the works" so to speak. But if HP recommends a specific brand I would like to give them a try. The 3M labels are not "sticky" enough to wrap around an edge (like disk labels). So I am looking for a "stickier" label that is DJ safe. -Paul-
#114907From: John DraperJul 29, 1990 3:31 PM
Try 'Disks and Labels To Go', for 3.5" disk labels. They come 6 to a page, and are quite sticky. The company advertises in Computer Shopper. -larry
#115041From: Allen MittsJul 30, 1990 6:50 PM
Steve, The laser labels work fine on the Desk Jet+. The problem comes when you actually have to use those labels. Because the ink is water soluable, you are taking a risk in addressing mail with them (think about our poor mail carriers in the summer time. It's hot, the're hot and they tend to perspire. Damp hands on a Desk Jet label makes the day 'ikky' as well as hot 🙂 Regards, Allen
#115174From: Steven D. KapplinJul 31, 1990 5:05 PM
Allen, I understand that's a problem. Someone else mentioned having a similar result and recommended "painting" the label with some sort of protectant. I also hear that HP has been attempting to make an ink that's less likely to run. The cartridge I have is the one that came with the DJ, which is about 4 months old. I have used a moistened finger on a printed page (using copier paper) and it doesn't run at all. I haven't tried "raining" on it, but a wet finger doesn't seem to matter. Perhaps HP has improved the ink formula. Of course label stock tends not to be as porous as copier paper. Steve
#115352From: Mike RothAug 2, 1990 12:10 AM
I have tried printing "business cards" for my kids on high quality bristol board. It's not very porous either, but I can tell you a wet hand was all it took to get them to run. — Mike
#115411From: Steven D. KapplinAug 2, 1990 5:26 PM
Mike, I haven't tried that yet. I know that lots of folks have reported their woes with running ink. I also know that HP was supposedly working to reformulate its ink to help minimize the problem, but I don't know if they actually have a new product out on the market. The one that came with my DJ seems reasonably immune on ordinary copier paper, after it dries, but I haven't tried printing on less porous material. I'm sure that if the ink is still the same formula that it will be much more susceptible to running on slick surfaces. I've heard that people have tried refilling their cartridges with other inks which do not run, but haven't seen a definitive decision on which inks work best and don't clog or dry out in the cartridge. A Schaeffer ink was one that I recall. Steve
#115414From: Mike RothAug 2, 1990 5:50 PM
Ink formulation is certainly more art than science. It also takes longer for the ink to dry on bristol board, but oh, what a look — just like from the printer's (until it gets wet.) Even though they specify the kind of paper to use by saying copier paper works best, the range of copier papers is quite broad and copiers fuse the toner to the paper by an entirely different process in any event. One nice thing about real ink — if you've ever put laser printed pages or xerographic copies in a vinyl-clad binder and then had to peel the front page away from the binder cover, leaving most of the print fused to the vinyl — it can't happen with real ink!! — Mike
#115455From: Betty Clay/SYSOPAug 2, 1990 9:34 PM
Mike, I haven't tried this – but would the spray art teachers use to protect pencil drawings work on your cards? ……Betty
#115522From: Mike RothAug 3, 1990 10:12 AM
I thought about that suggestion when I read about someone using a spray adhesive to mount labels. I may give it a try. — Mike
#115457From: Steven D. KapplinAug 2, 1990 10:11 PM
Mike, That's true!!! I especially run into that problem with transparencies. What a mess when you put one up on the overhead only to find that pieces of letters are clinging to something other than the transparency!! Steve
#115523From: Mike RothAug 3, 1990 10:20 AM
There is a thread going over in the HP Forum that is probably older than we are. but I just started following it recently when I got a DJ+. It has to do with reinking DJ and DJ+ cartridges. They have tried everything from chocolate syrup to liquid shoe polish. One interesting suggestion was to use (I think I recall it) Berol T Touche or somebody's T Touch ink, which offered the advantage of being waterproof and adhereing to tranparency cels. I don't recall reading any reports after trying it. If your question is primarily DJ+ oriented, you may want to follow the very active message base over there. — Mike (not the one from Lattice)
#115555From: Steven D. KapplinAug 3, 1990 5:02 PM
Mike, I downloaded quite some time back the text files {which followed the thread on refilling DJ cartridges, so I am somewhat familiarqEHwith it. I haven't hadxD occasion to refill mine, yet, but will probably try some of the suggestions from that thread. I recall mention of the Berol product, Schaeffer, and several others which were tried with varying Q+5Steve