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#Amiga help

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#12123From: Chris O'ReganJul 16, 1991 11:44 PM
I'm having a strange problem with my Amiga. First, let me describe my system: I'm using an A2000, three drives (two internal, one external–all 3.5" disks), flicker fixer, Sony multisync, modem (serial), printer (parallel), 2 Megs extra RAM, and the 1 Meg Fatter Agnus Chip. If I use a file system such as MessyDOS, my computer freezes up if I attempt any writing to the disk. However, this only occurs if I have installed MessyDOS on my internal drives. My external drive runs MSH fine. I also have had some disk problems using an Atari emulator. (Again, using the internal drives.) I've tried cleaning the drives, but the problem still persists. I believe that there may be something wrong with the chip that handles the internal drives. Could anyone direct me to a software packag (preferably PD), which I could use to test my Amiga's chips? Or would anyone care to suggest what the problem could be? Another quirk that has come up is with VirusX. When I run it, it tells me the ColdCapture Vector is not set to zero. Would my flicker fixer be using this vector? What exactly does this vector do? Thanks, in advance, for the replies.
#12130From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 17, 1991 2:21 AM
Chris, I don't know of any program that tests the chips, but I would suggest that one of the CIA chips (8520's) in your Amiga is probably a bit flakey. They are the source of a lot of strange goings on, and they are very static sensitive…so they can "break" fairly easily. No idea on the VirusX thing. Don
#12176From: Chris O'ReganJul 18, 1991 4:56 PM
Thanks for the help. Now I have a starting point. How much would you figure a CIA chip will cost? I guess I can steal one from my Dad's 500, so that I can test your theory. 🙂
#12214From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 19, 1991 12:41 AM
Chris, CIA chips cost about $20 each. Your Amiga has 2 of them in it. The best way to test them…is to swap them. If your original problem goes away (but some oth399 er problem will probably crop up), and then you swap them back…the original problem returns…you've found the cause. Don
#12254From: Chris O'ReganJul 19, 1991 7:19 PM
I appreciate the help…I'm going to open my 2000 up tonight and try it. Don't worry, it's too old to void the warranty (I've had it for about 6 months, and the guy before me had it for about a year and a half). Could the CIA chips be affecting my space bar? Sometimes when I tap it, I get two spaces instead of one. Or does my space bar need cleaning?
#12270From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 20, 1991 1:25 AM
Chris, If it's just on one key…I'd suspect the key itself. But yes, the keyboard is one of those things that also go thru the CIA chips. Don
#12271From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 20, 1991 1:27 AM
Chris, BTW…as I mentioned before…those CIA chips are VERY static sensitive. Make sure you are properly grounded before you touch them. Don
#12152From: Jonathan HirschmanJul 17, 1991 9:59 PM
If you have the SetPatch command enabled in you startup-sequence, VirusX will deliver the ColdCapture message.
#12177From: Chris O'ReganJul 18, 1991 5:00 PM
But I used the exact same startup-sequence on my Dad's Amiga 500, and I did not receive that message. (To tell you the truth, I used my original copy of Workbench 1.3-with the write-protect on!-to test). I forgot to mention that I have V1.2 ROMs in the A2000. Could 1.2 be giving me that message while 1.3 doesn't?
#12188From: John GagerJul 18, 1991 6:54 PM
Chris, could be that when Setpatch -r is used on your Dad's 500 it checks to see if you have less than 1meg of Chip ram, as in the 500, and if so doesn't install the patch and modify the Cold Capture vector. But on a 3000 it sees the 1 or 2 meg Chip ram and installs the patch. If you read the VirusX docs you will find there is an option to disable the Cold Capture error message, something like VirusX -r . By the way, I think the correct notation for the Setpatch is Setpatch r and not Setpatch -r as I typed above.
#12251From: Chris O'ReganJul 19, 1991 7:15 PM
That is quite possible…I do not have a fatter agnus on the A500, but my A2000 has one. Is there any way that I can run VirusX from WB and stop the message from appearing?
#12292From: John GagerJul 20, 1991 2:36 PM
There may be a way to run VirusX from the WB specifying the -r option, but I couldn't be sure unless I sit down and read the docs again. Possibly setting a tool option in the .info file. The easiest way I found to use VirusX is start it up from the startup-sequence in your s: subdirectory. That way it is available when you boot up your computer and is always checking for those nasty Viruses. If you need some help on editing your startup-sequence, let me know and I'll lead you through it. John (in beautiful downtown Walla Walla) – via Whap!
#12334From: Chris O'ReganJul 21, 1991 6:43 PM
I usually don't receive disks from other people's Amigas, so I can't be bothered to run it all the time. I usually give everything a check once in a while to see if any nasty critters have clung onto my disks somehow. I shouldn't have any problem with editing the Startup-Sequence if I do add it on (actually, I may if I get a hard drive in the near future).
#12211From: Jonathan HirschmanJul 18, 1991 11:50 PM
Sorry, can't help anymore. I was just citing the most common cause for the ColdCapture thang.
#12252From: Chris O'ReganJul 19, 1991 7:16 PM
No problem…Some other friendly people have stepped in to help. Thanks for the help you have given me.
#12185From: David ArtJul 18, 1991 6:19 PM
VirusX is correctly reporting on the ColdCapture vector. This is a result of your using the 'R' option with SetPatch, which you should be doing as far as I know. You can disable the message from VirusX, I believe.
#12250From: Chris O'ReganJul 19, 1991 7:12 PM
Like I mentioned to someone else, I used the sem startup-sequence on my Amiga and my Dad's A500, and used the same version of VirusX, but the A500 did not report anything about the ColdCapture Vector. Is there a reason for that?
#12259From: David ArtJul 19, 1991 8:45 PM
Chris, If your dad's A500 doesn't have the 1 meg AGNUS chip activated with a 1.3 Kickstart ROM, I don't believe that the 'r' option will have any effect. That could be the reason. David
#12272From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJul 20, 1991 1:28 AM
David, 1.3 is not necessary to "activate" the 1 Meg AGNUS. Don
#12336From: David ArtJul 21, 1991 7:21 PM
Don, No, but it is necessary to autoboot from RAD: with a 1 meg AGNUS that has been activated. The reason that I mentioned the word "activate" is that it's my understanding that C= has shipped A500's with the new part installed but without the modifications to activate the extra chip ram. In those cases, Setpatch R is not required, even though there is a 1 meg AGNUS chip in the machine. (Sorry if my answer was confusing.) David – via Whap!
#12260From: David ArtJul 19, 1991 8:50 PM
Chris, I had one more thought. Try taking the >NIL: redirection out of the Setpatch command in your startup-sequence. Setpatch will then print some message lines about what it's doing. Maybe that will help us figure it out. David
#12265From: Chris O'ReganJul 19, 1991 9:52 PM
I'll give it a try….At the moment, I'm more concerned with some disk access problems I've got. When I have some spare time, I'll play around with VirusX. At least I'm pretty sure that the ColdCapture thing isn't an unknown virus that my computer has picked up. Thanks, again, for all the help!
#12282From: Bruce HoinsJul 20, 1991 8:57 AM
David, According to the docs the ColdCapture screen does not indicate a virus. If it was a virus VirusX would tell you. I can neither confirm nor deny this but it is what was in the docs. What version of VirusX are you using? I think 4.01 is the version that first allowed the elimination of the coldcapture message. Bruce H. -Via Whap!
#12333From: Chris O'ReganJul 21, 1991 6:39 PM
I think I'm using version 4.0 of VirusX. I can't quite remember. I should look for the latest version.