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#18156From: Ari SchifferJun 30, 1992 10:30 AM
I just read the previous edition of the Compuserve magazine and I was intrigued by the hyperchem article. I don't use autodesk software yet and I was curious to know which product of theirs is necessary to use in order to run Hyperchem. ThankYou AriS. P.S. any information regarding the product would be very helpful.
#18227From: Ralph HochwartJul 1, 1992 7:30 AM
Hallo Ari, can you tell me from witch firm is the hyperchem article, what will you do with this article??? Ralph
#18271From: Richard HongJul 1, 1992 5:46 PM
Ari, HyperChem is a standalone product for molecular modeling. It does not require any other software product from Autodesk (or anyone else, for that matter). However, unless you are a professional chemist, HyperChem is probably nothing you would want to play with; it is not a "cute" program just to mess with. But if you are a chemist, I recommend it highly (I am not with Autodesk), as it compares quite favorably to all other PC-based molecular modeling software. It boasts 4 different force field calculations (most just have one, usually MM2), a superior user interface, and renderings that are quite nice. What are you looking for in this type of product? Rich
#18449From: Ari SchifferJul 3, 1992 9:54 PM
Richard, Thank you for responding, I am not a chemist, I am a Biologist however. My interest is in the modelling of experimental drugs for neurotransmitter receptor agonists and antagonists. I have ordered the demo disk and the accompanying literature. From your experience do you think the program will be useful for the purposes I've mentioned above. Thanks. Ari
#18734From: Richard HongJul 8, 1992 9:44 AM
Ari, Sounds like an excellent match for your needs. It depends on the size of the molecule fragments you'll be modeling, but HyperChem seems to be fairly capable of handling reasonably large molecules (though "large" is obviously different for a biologist than a chemist <g>). HyperChem handles things like proteins decently, and it can read Brookhaven PDB files as well, so they see biochemistry as an important field. Rich
#18536From: Mark GreenbaumJul 6, 1992 8:24 AM
One slight correction: HyperChem requires Microsoft Windows 3.x, a 386DX or 486 SX PC with a math coprocessor or a 486 DX with 6 megs of RAM and at least 8 megs of harddisk. Ari, HyperChem should be able to give you some insight into your neurotransmitter drug issues providing that you have sufficient knowlege of the chemistry involved. Best of luck and good modeling.
#18614From: EDMUND R. MARINELLIJul 6, 1992 9:01 PM
But at 3,000 a pop who can possibly afford it, unless you're with academia in which case you get a gigant (discrimmination !) discount.
#18762From: Richard HongJul 8, 1992 1:04 PM
>> But at 3,000 a pop who can possibly afford it Ed, It's actually $3,500 — and well worth it. The people who really *need* it can afford it (how do you do research chemistry without a lot of money to fund a lab in the first place?), and HyperChem is a better value than other modeling software. Other PC modelers simply are not nearly as good, and superior software exists only for decent UNIX workstations which are quite expensive, and the software is quite expensive as well. $3,500 is less than two man-weeks of time for a PhD researcher at a pharmaceutical company. HyperChem should save that if it is being used by someone who needs it. Of course, the far larger market is people who don't really need it but want to have it anyway. For them, it probably isn't worth $3,500 <g>. Rich