very poor support
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Bob, I must agree with the sentiments expressed here. Your company's
support policies as you've expressed them in your message are abysmal. There
is no excuse for a company which charges thousands of dollars for a software
license (note: NOT for the software, just for a LICENSE TO USE the software!)
to provide only that level of direct support.
My name is Joel Rea. I'm Marion's employee, and most of the messages you
see here on his account are actually from me. Accessing this forum is part of
my job. One of my prior jobs, a long-running one until I resigned a year and a
half ago, was at a software co. called Softdisk Publishing. For a long time, I
was its sole technical support agent. When I resigned, there were only two of
us. I understand they have a few more now.
Softdisk publishes periodicals on disk. Disk magazines, actually. Softdisk
invented the disk magazine in September of 1991 for the Apple II, and later
branched out to the Commodore 64 (Loadstar), IBM PC (Big Blue Disk, later On
Disk Magazine, plus the later special-genre PC BusinessDisk and The Gamer's
Edge), Commodore 128 (Loadstar 128 Quarterly), Macintosh (Diskworld and the
later DTPublisher), and Apple IIgs (Softdisk G-S), plus many special one-shot
disks. We never told our subscribers that they were only buying a "license to
use" our disks. A disk subscription to one of the above products was typically
on two double-sided 5.25" (normal density for the PC) disks or one
higher-density disk, every month (except for Loadstar 128 Quarterly, PC
BusinessDisk, Gamer's Edge, and DTPublisher, which were bimonthly except for
the obviously-named LS128Q). Each issue of each product had an average of 5-10
programs, plus articles, reviewes, fonts, graphics, etc., all with a friendly
user-interface.
Each issue of the monthly products retailed for $9.95, with a one year
subscription for $69.95. Back issues were available all the way back to the
original Softdisk #0 from September of 1981.
Think about that for a minute. Think how MANY programs that means! 5 or
more programs PER ISSUE PER PRODUCT PER MONTH, for over 10 years!! ALL STILL
AVAILABLE!! As Technical Support, I was expected to know ALL of those programs
for ALL of those computers off the top of my head! And I did, too! I dare say
that while other software companies may have a far greater VOLUME of technical
support, that no other software company IN HISTORY has had more COMPLICATED
technical support knowledge requirements.
This for disks that cost via subscription as little as $5 per issue (and a
single issue could be the equivilant of up to FOUR disks) of NON-SHAREWARE,
FULLY COMMERCIAL software!
And our Technical Support was directly available to the customers, and for
FREE! For much of the time, we didn't have an (800) number for tech. support,
but our customers understood that we were willing to provide the technical
support itself for free, but not to pay their phone bills as well. <g> I
often found myself talking computer neophytes through such tasks as editing
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT (with EDLIN, no less! This was before the days of
EDIT!), moving INITs into and out of the System Folder on a Macintosh, editing
and saving BASIC programs on the Apple ][ and Commodore 64/128, and in some
cases even opening up the computer to change DIP switches or even perform minor
repairs on disk drives (many times I saved people from having to go to the
repair center to fix their floppy drive's write protect sensor by having them
blow hard into the left side of the slot — most common cause of that problem
is accumulation of dust or bits of paper over the LED or detector of the
sensor). All over the phone.
If some small software company in Shrevepit, Lousyana (The Nation's LARGEST
Hick Town) can do THAT kind of support under THOSE circumstances, why can't a
major firm such as AutoDesk which has in its entire history published maybe 1%
as many programs (counting versions and upgrades) as Softdisk has in ITS
history, provide ANY direct support, at least for less than the cost of the
software "license" itself additional?
I think it has to do with Softdisk sending out product in little cardboard
envelopes, and Autodesk buying nice shiny boxes and big colorful ads. 🙂
Marion,
Just checking, don't most software companies sell licenses, not the actual
software? (Big comercial programs that is, Word, Dos, Windows, etc. etc etc.)
<g>
Don
Hello, Joel.
Once again, I'm sorry to hear that you, and everyone, are dissatisfied with
Autodesk's policies regarding support. However, all I can do is relate to
everyone how things operate right now.
Primary support for 3D Studio and AAPro, right now, is via the dealer where you
purchased the product. If the dealer can't answer your question, request a
conference call with Autodesk. You get to ask your question and the dealer
gets to learn something new.
Secondary (for a lot of you, Primary) support is available right here on our
forum. CompuServe is one form of direct support that you can take advantage
of. When you put a message up here, it comes right to Product Support where
one of our technicians will address the problem. Here's proof for you since
I've responded to your issue. We use this forum to find out about new
hardware, tip and techniques, how other people use our software, gather ideas
and wishes for upcoming releases, etc.
So, what have I accomplished with this response? Probably not much other than
drag this thread out a little further. I'm not going to be able to please
everyone because I don't set Autodesk's policies.
Yes, our policies may change, but for the time being I follow and uphold the
ones we currently have in place.
Sorry, if that's not what you want to hear,
Bob P. – Supervisor
Product Support / Autodesk