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#Rush Drivel

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#48769From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 6, 1993 4:02 PM
James, PMJI, but I had to jump in on this one: >> Actually I think you underestimate Mr. Limbaugh he's a lot more >> liberal than he let's on and he's a lot more human than many >> "Liberals" would like him to be You are joking, I hope. I listened to him a few times and can't imagine a more obnoxious, offensive, self-important, loudmouthed oaf. Quite nauseated is how I felt after being assaulted by his rubbish – and I voted for Bush in the election he won ('88), but not the last one (so I don't fall into any political category easily, either). In fact, I didn't vote for Clinton but I think he should give him a chance. If Limbaugh is liberal, so was Mussolini <g>.
#48801From: David TaffetJul 6, 1993 8:39 PM
Martin, God bless you, you make statements as succinct and elegant as anyone could ever want! Hope I get to meet you sometime. D {just call me COMRADE} T
#48818From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 6, 1993 11:11 PM
David, >> succint and elegant I don't know about that, but I sometimes rave a little <G>.
#48928From: Don LandisJul 7, 1993 1:30 PM
David, I owe you an apology. Recently I told you that I felt this forum was for subjects of and for comments related to Autodesk multimedia, 3DS etc. I told you I would only respond to your political questions on the appropriate forum. I was wrong. After following these threads on the Take 5/ General section including those of the sysop's I now agree that in this section anything goes. I didn't realize this section's purpose at the time. Rant and rave all you want.
#48950From: David TaffetJul 7, 1993 7:13 PM
Thanks, Don, though I have a funny feeling I hear a note of sarcasm in your note. (Don't ask me how that could be possible, it would take us into a MUCH further afield area.) In support of your earlier position (which does not require it) the thread we were pursuing previously was in What's New, I'm pretty sure, rather than this, more appropriate, Take 5 section, which most forums have some variant of for these very purposes.
#48965From: Don LandisJul 7, 1993 10:13 PM
No sarcasm was intended. Really! I've been accused of that before. I've never been accused of being a diplomat. I guess that goes with having been a plant manager with average of 50 people responsibilities for 15 years. What I meant was now that I've apologized and admitted my error I feel free to join in on all this nonsense once in awhile. OK?
#49056From: David TaffetJul 8, 1993 3:44 PM
Abselmento! Join in all U want!
#48829From: Martin KunertJul 7, 1993 12:16 AM
Martin PMJI on your PMJI, but… >> >> Actually I think you underestimate Mr. Limbaugh he's a lot more >> >> liberal than he let's on and he's a lot more human than many >> >> "Liberals" would like him to be >> You are joking, I hope. I listened to him a few times and can't imagine >> a more obnoxious, offensive, self-important, loudmouthed oaf. >> Quite nauseated is how I felt after being assaulted by his rubbish …. >> …. If Limbaugh is liberal, so was Mussolini <g>. While obnoxious, offensive, self-important, loudmoouthed oaf are preceptions reletive to what you find these adjectives to be, Rush can hardly be compared to Mussolini. He does often stumble into self-contradictory positions (like abortion and how he would have a raped, pregnant daughter deal with it (like Bush and Quayle weaving during the convention)), but overall, he's more practical than idealistic. Furthermore, his program presents information that is often valid, informative, and rarely known (such as JFK's belief and action that raising taxes squashes econimc recovery and lowering them stimulates it). Listen to the guy some more. If you do, you'll find that Rush's postions can be distilled into these principals: – All people are equal. Any law or policy that differintiates people is therefore discriminatory. – "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for one day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a life time" Principals that I bet you'll find more agreement with than disagreement. You'll certainly never agree with everything, but then, is there anybody you agree with completly? As far as equating Rush with Mussolini, its like equating Ted Kennedy and Chairman Mao.
#48838From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 7, 1993 12:54 AM
MartinK, >> – All people are equal. Any law or policy that differintiates people is therefore discriminatory. – "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for one day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a life time" If that was all things boiled down to then it wouldn't be so bad, but I think something far more insidious is going on…. >> As far as equating Rush with Mussolini, its like equating Ted Kennedy >> and Chairman Mao. Interesting point but I think not. The only viable political choices in America, IMHO, seem to be centre and right of centre (democrats) and right and extreme right wing (republicans) – there simply isn't any socialist party of any consequence. Therefore, Ted Kennedy was probably never more than liberal compared to world socialist figures. Whereas, in England you have definite left-wing (labour party), centre (social democrats/liberal party), and right-wing (Conservative party) – of course, each has it's own spectrum of moderates and extremists. However, Rush "MacArthy" Limbaugh seems like more of a "look-out! reds under the bed!" far right type, IMHO, and consequently worries me greatly. Maybe I'll listen to him a bit more and sift through his drivel to find out where he stands. Only thing is someone who calls his show "a brush with greatness" has really got off to a bad start with me, even if it is tongue-in-cheek.
#49074From: Martin KunertJul 8, 1993 9:49 PM
>> I think not. The only viable political choices in America, IMHO, seem to be centre >> and right of centre (democrats) and right and extreme right wing (republicans) Hmm… this gives a tiny, little hint where on the political spectrum your views are (g) >> Therefore, Ted Kennedy was probably never more than liberal compared to world socialist figures. Certainly true. Even Ted can't be that bad. (Guess you now know where I sit on the spectrum (g)) By the way, you have to understand – I was born in Poland, my reaction to socialism may appear extreme, but IMHO, experience is a hard teacher. >> However, Rush "MacArthy" Limbaugh seems like more of a "look-out! reds under the bed!" >> far right type, IMHO, and consequently worries me greatly. Give him a shot (not literally (g)). >> If that was all things boiled down to then it wouldn't be so bad, >> but I think something far more insidious is going on…. What do you believe is going on? P.S. Are you from England?
#49084From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 8, 1993 11:06 PM
MartinK, >> Hmm… this gives a tiny, little hint where on the political spectrum >> your views are (g) Not necessarily <g>. I have voted mainly conservatively in my home country (England) and also in my adopted one (USA), but I like to see the whole of the spectrum represented which doesn't seem to be the case here. However, I am moving more to the centre now since the right is too extreme for my liking. You can have a free enterprise system and still have some socialist tendencies, though, especially regarding health care for all for example.
#49215From: Martin KunertJul 9, 1993 8:25 PM
Hmm. Interesting.
#48995From: James M. MurphyJul 8, 1993 1:17 AM
<< You are joking, I hope. I listened to him a few times and can't imagine a more obnoxious, offensive, self-important, loudmouthed oaf.>> JM "obviously you've never heard of Larry King<g>
#49071From: Martin KunertJul 8, 1993 9:39 PM
|| << You are joking, I hope. I listened to him a few times and can't imagine a more obnoxious, || offensive, self-important, loudmouthed oaf.>> || JM "obviously you've never heard of Larry King<g> Or what's his name, known as "The Mouth". Used to have a talk show shot in WOR-NY.
#49081From: James M. MurphyJul 8, 1993 10:51 PM
<< Or what's his name, known as "The Mouth". Used to have a talk show shot in WOR-NY. >> JM That was "Joe Pine"….Now That was a Show! Talk About Weirdo's.<g>
#49096From: Jul 8, 1993 11:22 PM
MartinK: >> Or what's his name, known as "The Mouth". Used to have a talk show shot >> in WOR-NY. Not Morton Downey, Jr.? Greg Pyros
#49214From: Martin KunertJul 9, 1993 8:25 PM
>> Not Morton Downey, Jr.? YES!!!! That's "The Mouth"!!
#49286From: MARTIN G FOSTERJul 10, 1993 8:10 PM
MartinK, The "mouth"? Would that be Morton Downey? Yes, actually he's worse than Rush <g>.
#49301From: Martin KunertJul 11, 1993 12:08 AM
>> The "mouth"? Would that be Morton Downey? Yes, actually he's worse than Rush <g>. Absolutly true on both counts.