LanRover?
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I 'hear' you have a product called "LanRover," Coul I get some more
information?
Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
ASDG has been producing ethernet cards for OEMs since 1989. We designed SANA II
in cooperation with Commodore and actually authored their board's device
drivers.
The EB920 is our current ethernet board. It offers thin ethernet only, jumper
selectable interrupt level, 32K of on-card cache (which is managed dynamically,
so it can cache hundreds of packets at a time), a very fast network controller,
a full SANA II driver and utilities, and probably the most important feature of
all: It's available.
Performance wise, although it is a physically faster board than the CBM board,
the performance of the system as a whole is dominated by the performance of the
software, not the hardware. So, in actual use, almost no speed difference is
discernable (about 10 percent).
Is your board compatible with Oxxi's Novell client software ? I need to get a
few amigas networked and despite what i have heard about enlan and parnet, I
need the functionality and connectivity that our netware servers provide.
Besides, we are upgrading to netware 4.0 and with the servers built in
compression it will make saving large amiga datafiles a snap.
As you stated the cbm boards are kinda hard to come by….
[I'm not from ASDG, but…]
You've asked the question the wrong way around. The right way around is
"Does Oxxi's Novell client software work with the LanRover despite the
fact the Oxxi refuses to upgrade or plan to upgrade to SANA-II
compatibility or to otherwise update their client in any way?" The last
time I checked, Oxxi's Novell client worked only with A2060 or A2065 and
their position was they weren't going to spend another penny in resources
on their Novell client.
Call Oxxi and ask.
Dale Larson
– An Amiga Software Engineer with some time on his hands.
Yes, our boards are plug-and-play with Oxxi's Novell software.
Did you convince Oxxi to go SANA-II or did you convince them to add a
driver for your particular board or what?
Kind of embarassing to be so wrong, but glad to hear it.
Dale Larson
– An Amiga Software Engineer with some time on his hands.
This is exactly the information I was looking for. Not if only AMi/TCP had
an NFS implementation….
Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
Commodore's TCP/IP does have NFS client capability.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
Mark,
I think Brian was referring to the PD TCP implementation, not Commodores.
For others:
Commodore's original AS 225 (NFS/TCP) was not SANA compatible and does not work
with the LanRover. Commodore's new AS 225 *is* SANA compatible and works
*famously* with the LanRover. However, AS 225 Release 2 is unavailable to the
general public and likely will never become available. Developers, however, can
get AS 225 Release 2.
> work with the LanRover. Commodore's new AS 225 *is* SANA compatible and
> works *famously* with the LanRover. However, AS 225 Release 2 is
> unavailable to the general public and likely will never become
> available.
What?!?! Why would this be the case?
Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
ASDG,
Oh! I assumed he spoke of the commercial product. I haven't tried the
PD TCP.
It is a shame C= hasn't finished the new version of TCP/IP. I spoke to
a software engineer there who said how great it worked, how it was SANA
compatible and how NFS was server as well as client capable. I sure would
like to have it! The old version is OK but is getting very old. I hear the
docs are the main thing not yet finished.
While I'm talking to ASDG…..I am really bummed that there is no FITS
loader in my recent (and otherwise worthwhile) upgrade to ADPro. Your
folks spoke of it being in the new version when I pestered them last Fall.
May I ask what happened to it?
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
Mark,
Is C= writing the new AS225 or are you referring to a directly available
product from C=? Sounds like what I'm looking for. If you have a contact
number, I could send them a little business. CBM has trouble answering my phone
calls. I have already seen the OS/2 TCPIP in action. See IBM for info.
If I could just get FTP up on my ASDG I'd be happy. NFS server would be
fantastic.
Thanks
Rudy OBTW: I usually only hit the boards on weekends. So if I don't
get back for a week or so it's 'normal'.
Commodore is/was writing the new version of TCP/IP. I spoke with a
software guy there a couple of months ago to get a termcap file. I think
his name is John Schilling but I'm not 100% sure of the name. He said the
final testing wasn't completed and that the docs needed to be done.
Someone needs to convince C= that this is what MANY people want and
need. Write letters and make calls!
Now to show my ignorance; what is LanRover? An ethernet card from ASDG?
A network trouble-shooting bloodhound?
FTP works great with AS225 1.0 and my A2065 cards. I don't have NFS on
the main server so I haven't fooled with that yet although I have heard it
works well. Just set up a directory on the main server to mount remotely
and *poof* you get an icon on workbench for a "drive" that is really the
dirrectory.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
It's an ethenet card from ASDG although with TCP/IP 1.0 it does tend to be
baying at the moon (actually worse, it doesn't do anything). I tried calling
CBM today and got bounced through a few phone numbers. No info. If the CBM card
goes available I may have to go for it. I'm not giving up yet.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I should fill out those registration cards and try a
more postal approach… Speaking of ignorance, I didn't recognize C= as the old
CBM logo when I sent the last message to you. Maybe it was a sort of wishful
thinking. It would be nice if there was someone else trying to make a living on
TCP/IP software.
–Thanks for the info
Rudy
What DOES LanRover work with(I am NOT making fun of it)? Does it come
with any software?
I had a heck of a time getting a couple of A2065 cards last Winter. I
just got on the blower and bugged people at C= (yeah, Commodore) until I
pushed the right button. It CAN be done.
There is a PD TCP but I haven't tried it. The Amiga ethernet market is
really small but would be bigger if C= would make and ship some dang
cards. I can't tell you how useful it is to be connected to other machines
at 10mbits/sec. Heck I can even run multiple sessions through the same
card! Big fun. I really use it at work and often amaze visitors to my
office when they see me run a FEW things at once both on my machine and
across the net.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
LanRover works with our ACS software. The Amiga Client Software system has a
LanRover driver… I am using it as I type. We also support the C- 2065 and the
HydraSystem Ethernet card. With ACS you can hook the Amiga into a NOVELL
network along with IBM's and MAC's.
Just thought you might like to know.
Mike
The LanRover comes with a SANA II driver which allows it to be a plug in
replacement for the Commodore board when using software which is SANA II
compatible. Commodore's unreleased AS225 Release 2 and ENVOY are examples of
these. The LanRover is directly supported by several non-SANA II systems
including TSSNet, ENLAN, and OXXI.
Mark,
Looks like all but C= have replied and they should. Oh well, I work on a
mixed network at work. Token ring OS/2 Lan Services at 16 MBPS, Ethernet
gatewayed in on RS6000 and Macs, LocalTalk (Native Mac net) also gatewayed on
the Ethernet backbone. Lots of remote services etc. The advantages are
tremendous. I'm working at home doing animation and so called multimedia, but I
tend to need to deliver on the Mac and PC platforms. Novell would meet my needs
(I think the Amiga is the most cost effective and otherwise excellent machine
for my purposes) for transfer and then some. The problem is that the cost is
burdened by the need to purchase a server. You can get a lot of 'iron' for the
price of the net. Anyway thanks for the advice I'll keep buggin C=.
Rudy
The LanRover is a family of networking cards by ASDG. These have been available
continuosly since 1989.
Oh, so it is an old card. It sure would be nice for you if C= released
v2.0 of As225, huh? I can't believe C= is still not shipping A2065 cards.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
If you want our current FITS stuff, just give technical support a call. What we
have works well, but it unfinished due to there being just under a zillion
other things to do of a higher priority.
Whoa, really? I called and talked to a saleperson who just said I couldn't
get it. I will call back and ask for a tech. I am used to using things
that are not quite finished. Thank-you for that answer.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
Not necessarily what I want. I'd like to be able to go peer-to-peer
between my two Amigas (3000 and 1200) without losing parallel ports.
Parnet just ain't enough as printer sharing is among the things I want to
do…
Then there's the (soon to be OS/2 based) PC clone That will be moving in
soon….
Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
Isn't Enlan/DFS available? Oops, no wait, 1200? Hmm…no slots except the
PCMCIA. I don't think there is Amiga software for any of the PCMCIA
ethernet cards yet. Don't hold yer breath.
Goin' AP
…..Mark Sterling
Mark:
I believe Brian wasn't refering to the TCP/IP available in AS225, but
rather the TCP/IP available as shareware called AmiTCP. It's available
complete with all sourcecode.
I might even try setting up AmiTCP on my Amiga just to see if by any
chance if it's the Amiga side of things that's making my network not fly.
// -Mike Schiller
\X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
Also in sunny Florida…
I have called ASDG and been told the old AS225 does not work with their
board. I have tried AmiTCP but my 2500/30 rolls over and dies every time I run
TCPIP. I have 1.3 on and upgrade ROMS plus 2.xx to install sometime, but I
don't think this should be a problem for 1.3. Let me know if you get running.
The AmiTCP source gives you header files and code for BSD sockets as well as
the run time support. The "gamma" version I downloaded supported very little of
the main TCPIP utilities. Someone left a note on an NFS server supported TCPIP
commercial package. Think I'll get in touch with the company and the author.
I'm using Macs and Amigas and haven't seen a TCPIP server that would let either
serve NFS other than this (called some MAC TCPIP people but all client only).
Novell would mean adding a PC somewhere and I'd rather spend the money on Mag
Op disks. I have been working Toaster to Quicktime and would like at least
TCPIP to transfer the files (FTP).
Again if you find something that runs please drop a line.
Thanks
–Rudy at Melbourne