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#Sound Cards

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#50605From: Michael BahrJul 22, 1993 10:33 AM
Does anybody have any opinion on the latest crop of sound cards… I am interested in MIDI, compatability, and local sound production, and the new Sound Blaster 16 ASP seems to fit the bill. Is there another version of this card which is only the Sound Blaster 16? Any opinions on this versus other cards in terms of price, value, bundled software, etc? -Mike.
#50686From: Ken EdwardsJul 22, 1993 5:20 PM
It is my understanding that the Turtle Beach card is STILL the best! ken
#50767From: Michael BahrJul 23, 1993 8:43 AM
But a LOT of money!
#50898From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Jul 23, 1993 7:14 PM
Anyone try the MediaVision Studio product? … Has quite an array of features including "all format" compatibility, voice recongnition and sythization (great for proofreading proposals!!). Yamaha 20 voice synth … etc. Ang
#50791From: David RhotenJul 23, 1993 10:34 AM
I've heard that the straight SB16 is noisier than the PAS16, but have seen (and bought) the SB16ASP as being quieter (than the SB 16). Plus, you can add a daughtercard (WaveBlaster) which adds the same digital samples chips that the Tutrle Beach card has. Dave
#50845From: Jeff HesterJul 23, 1993 2:19 PM
David: The daughterboard for the SoundBlaster 16ASP uses EXACTLY the same chips as the Turtle Beach Multisound? How much does Creative Labs charge for this daughterboard? I might consider upgrading from my SB Pro to the 16ASP if the price is right. BTW, I've got a Turtle Beach Multisound on order for the office…I let you all know how it works out. Jeff Hester
#50960From: James M. MurphyJul 24, 1993 1:51 AM
Michael, There are no card(S) plural…..If you've ever actually "heard" the Turtle Beach Systems Multisound card as well as understand their professional background in MIDI plus the fact they use the E-MU Protus Chip ( not sure of the spelling here 🙂 ) Then you would know the ONLY card on the market that gives professional results not game results with a 16bit rateing…is the Multisound card. If you wanna play games get a cheap SB card if your Serious about production quality Sound the ONLY Choice is the Turtle Beach Card. I Own and Sell these cards and have done so since they first came out two years ago. They have a forum section on the Multimedia Vendors Forum and you may contact them directly at (717) – 843-6916 They have an 800 number also but I don't seem to have it handy at the moment so ask for it when you call…. you will be calling them back. They also have Turtle Tools which is a software package that works with: Control Midi, Digital Audio, CD Audio all from Windows as well as WAVE for Windows a very good Sound Editor with many newly added special effects functions and its also super fast at processing WAVE files for things like Backwards Masking and other effects. If your Serious about sound, sound editing and/or happen to be a musician, there is no other choice. Even if your not a musician this is the best way to go for sound bar-none!!! The Specs exceed the output specs on my Sony "Music" CD Deck. Really!! James M. Murphy James Murphy Consulting Green Bay, Wisconsin 54301 (414) 435-7345 Direct (414) 437-3898 Technical Support/to Book Training
#51000From: Kurt McKeeverJul 24, 1993 10:53 AM
James, Yes, the Multisound is a quality card, not the ONLY card. There are many second tier companys that produce low to mid priced solutions in wave table synthesis and 16-bit audio and more new ones on the way. Many of these co. use chipsets produced by long time pro. synthesizer companys such as Kurzweil, Ensoniq, Crystal, … and so on. In fact, Creative Labs, who produce the Sound Blaster 16, offer a E-MU 4MB Wave table add-on for $249 (list). (Creative Labs by the way, aquired E-MU about 3 months ago.) Some might want to shop for a card with wave table synthesis as well as a DSP to handle the LARGE amounts of data being processed when working with 16-bit audio. Hopefully just some helpful advice. KM
#51129From: James M. MurphyJul 25, 1993 8:03 PM
Kurt, <<<There are many second tier companys that produce low to mid priced solutions>>> My point…Exactly! I'm not interested in Low to mid prices Quality. <<<(Creative Labs by the way, aquired E-MU about 3 months ago.>>> Geeee….. I wonder what gave them that Idea! <BG> Kurt you wouldn't happen to have ever Heard these two Sound Cards Side By Side have you? James
#51167From: Kurt McKeeverJul 26, 1993 4:06 AM
<<<Does anybody have any <<<opinion>>> on the latest crop of sound cards… I am interested in MIDI, <<<compatability>>>, and local sound production", and the new Sound Blaster 16 ASP seems to fit the bill. Is there another version of this card which is only the Sound Blaster 16? Any opinions on this versus other cards in terms of <<<price, value, bundled software, etc"?>>> Micheal Bahr>>> James, Hi, I'm sort of new to the forum and I see that my reply to you should have been a reply to Michael Bahr's message/question. At least I thought it was a fair reply (did Michael say "professional"?). Agreed, the Multisound has been rated #1 in numerous reviews….. (and for a good reason -Professional Digital Audio -Synthesis) I was just pointing out that there ARE alternatives when many manufacturers are producing high quality sound cards at a lower cost. There are many NEW chipset designs that will compete with the more expensive boards and many are now doing that. Kurzweil-Mass Audio, Ensoniq-Soundscape, Sierra-Aria, Yamaha-OPL-4, Roland-Sound Canvas, etc… are/will be available with a variety of options for digital audio, DSP/no DSP, SCSI interface, compatibility, software bundles. I am not as familiar with the digital audio spec/quality comparison as I am with the synthesis. Question? What spec differentiates between professional digital audio and non-professional digital audio? 16-bit? 44Khz? SNR? Maybe we should be in the Multimed forum with this thread?<g> KM
#51317From: James M. MurphyJul 27, 1993 2:18 AM
Kurt, <<< Question? What spec differentiates between professional digital audio and non-professional digital audio? 16-bit? 44Khz? SNR? >>> Turtle Beach has a forum section on the Multimedia vendors forum…If Ya' Reeeeeaally wanna get into it, I would suggest you talk directly to Turtle Beach. These Guys are absolute experts on sound. To answer your question 16Bit… you gotta be kidding… these guys were the _first_ 16 bit card. Digital Audio Sample Rates -44.1kHz, 22.05kHz, 11.025kHz Resolution 16 and 8 bit Audio channels Stereo or Mono Audio Converters A/D: 64x oversoampled sigma-delta, 16 bit D/A: 8x interpolating filter 64x oversampled sigma-delta, 18 bit You asked about the SNR, OK… signal to Noise- -91 dB (A Weighted) -87 dB (Unweighted) There is much Much MUCH more, however you've really got to HEAR this card to appreciate it…it's phenominal!! If Ya Gotta Record in CD Stereo Quality..Its There! Oh Ya'…. Ask for Jon V. on the Turtle Beach Forum he'll point Ya! LaTER Kurt.<g> James M. Murphy
#51377From: Kurt McKeeverJul 27, 1993 11:56 AM
Thanks James. KM
#51349From: Michael BahrJul 27, 1993 8:36 AM
Thanks, Kurt. I am now the owner of a Sound Blaster Pro 16 ASP, hoping to upgrade to the MIDI kit and Wave Blaster within the year (for exactly the same reasons you stated). -Mike.