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#Commodore sinking

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#33515From: Andrew FarrellJul 24, 1993 8:57 AM
To David and Mark, I spent a long time talking with an ex-Commodore employee, who was high up in Commodore. He told me things that would make you want to cry. Great ideas crushed for crazy reasons. Great people sacked over petty politics… the list goes on. As editor of an Amiga magazine I'm constantly faced with the option of slagging off Commodore or getting on with the job of telling Amiga owners how better to use their machines. We are not the poepl who will shape the future of Commodore. The World economy and company politics play a far greater role than any one persons care for the life force we've expended helping make the Amiga what it is today. I say stop wasting time ripping whatever vestiges of credability are left in the Amiga world to shreds and get on with Amiga computing. People have been predicting the demise of Commodore for years now. It hasn't happened yet. If the day ever comes, I don't want to have to turn around and say, wow, I wonder how much what I wrote or said contributed to that in some small way. Fact is, if Amiga crashes, the PC world won't be looking to healthy either. Take a look at it now and you'll quickly see there are just as many companies slashing staff, dodgy products being passed off as workable solutions or half baked ideas killing great ideas… at the end of the day its what pops out the other end of the computer – the literature, art and science we achieve that's important. If the Amiga is a better way to make those things happen, as an Amiga journo that's what you should be concerned with David – not the internal workings of an industry run by a few key people and impacted by forces more complex than you or I will ever understand. Andrew Farrell, Editor, Australian Commodore and Amiga Review Andrew Farrell, Editor – Australian Commodore & Amiga Review
#33522From: VICTOR EDWARDSJul 24, 1993 2:49 PM
Well said. Nothing does it as sweet or as fast as an Amiga 4000/030! ***Sensor***
#33525From: Mike SchillerJul 24, 1993 7:31 PM
Victor: >Nothing does it as sweet or as fast as an Amiga 4000/030! > ***Sensor*** Other than perhaps an Amiga 4000/040!!! // -Mike Schiller \X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
#33526From: Mark D. ManesJul 24, 1993 8:31 PM
Andrew, I am a Direct Commodore dealer (until Aug 6th that is, when Commodore US officially ends all direct reseller agreements). I understand much better than most how Commodore works (or doesn't), what is good and what is bad. I will have had no effect on whether Commoodre comes crashing down or not. It will be strictly finances that control their destiny, not I. I will point out this however, Commodore crashing will have little to no effect on the PC marketplace. How could it? Catastrophy was not the result when NeXT hung up their gloves, why would Commodore disappearing have a greater effect on the PC industry that barely knows of the Amigas existance. Don't get me wrong, I love the Amiga. It is still the best personal computer built today–however, Commodore has changed courses. Their focus is on the low-end game box. Until that changes, the clock ticks against them. In my mind, SGI dealt the Amiga a knock-out punch with the announcement of Indy–even if the SGI costs more, it will NOT matter. If you know me, you would know that I have been a long time cheerleader for Commodore. I still have high hopes, but the 2 minute warning buzzer has been sounded, and Commodore is down by 7 points. In response, Commodore layed off the quarterback and the entire coaching staff. See my point? -mark= Otto Pilot Engaged..
#34117From: Laurie CarrollAug 11, 1993 6:47 AM
Mark, "Indy….knock out punch"……."$5000-21000" (other threads) I dont think so myself, the Amiga equals more bang for the buck. And CBM is not JUST the producer of the Amiga, they are and need to be a bit more diverse than that these days in order to survive the current world economic climate. Downsizing has been a standard reaction for most large companies, in order to reduce costs. Personally I think IBM is more likeley to fall over……they dont own their O/S for their PC's. MS does and the $$$ has been going to them instead of big blue. Furthermore Mr Thurmans list (another thread) of targeted markets are all business ones in which the Indies high price tag can be written off against tax.Something that I guess ironically does not favour the Amiga when people foolishly equate a higher price tag with quality. With a base price of USD5000.00 the Indy is obviously being targeted at a different market niche. Laurie Carroll AKL NZ Longdistance Autopilot