#Free space
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Jerry,
On a system that has a 120 meg hard drive and is running Toster 3.1, how much
free space is left on the drive?
I am reviewing a program that requires about 10 or 12 megs and my drive doesn't
have it. Are there some parts of the Toaster program that can be deleted
without it affected the operation?
Fred
Fred,
No, there's barely any room left on the 120 MB hard drive after Toaster 3.1
installation. I personally wouldn't recommend deleting any Toaster files
myself; think of it this way: even if you did that, and got by without
having to buy another hard drive, the solution would be terribly temporary
anyway, since you're still gonna have to have room for images to work with…
I have 1.5 GB of disk space on my Amiga, and still have to go through cleaning
out unused stuff on a very regular basis.
Jerry
Jerry,
In addition to the 120 meg hard drive that the Toaster program is on, I have a
500 meg hard drive that I use for framestores and other programs. The problem
is that the program I received, requires you to load it on the same drive as
the Toaster.
I think that this software manufacturer is going to have to come up with a work
around. There must be a lot of people that don't have an extra 10 megs of
space.
Now, I am beginning to wonder what the Flyer is going to require. I believe it
is softward in addition to a board. Does anybody know if the software needs to
be installed on the same drive that the Toaster is now on, or can you use a
second hard drive?
Fred
Fred, Why not install the Toaster on the larger drive ? You can still use the
smaller one for additional framestores. Regards, Gary
Gary,
I think when I first bought my Toaster, either the dealer or NewTek told me
that the Toaster software had to be installed on the drive that came with the
Amiga. Not being that familiar with the Amiga, I excepted this comment.
In the PC world, this drive would be called my C drive and the new drive that I
installed would be my D drive. I thought that it might have had something to do
with which drive the Amiga booted from.
Fred
Fred, You can install the Toaster softwre anywhere there's room for it.
Regards, Gary
Fred,
If you are squeemish about re-installing your Toaster software onto the larger
drive, you might try moving the fonts and 3-d objects to the larger HD instead.
This will free up about 40 megs. You can still easily access all the fonts and
objects through the requesters, but you need to make sure that any projects or
Lightwave reference files you have saved are "re-saved" using the new paths for
the fonts or objects.
Frank
Frank,
Should I be squeemish about re-installing the Toaster Software. I never had to
do it the first time. When my Amiga arrived, the dealer had done everything for
me. So, I have no idea what is involved.
If this were a PC I would not think twice. But, I still have not had time to
read more than a few pages of the Amiga Dos manual. I did install the second
hard drive by myself and have had no problem with the installation of Ad-Pro,
Morphing, and Opus.
I probably won't do anything until the Flyer arrives.
The only reason this whole conversation got started was that I was asked to
review Pro Wipes for a magazine. When I tried installing the program on the
larger hard drive, I found it would not run and a call to the company gave me
the answer that the program needed to be installed on the same drive as the
Toaster. So, in writing my review, I had to consider this to be a problem that
others would incounter.
I would guess that a lot of people bought the Toaster with the 120 meg hard
drive. I think that the software company should have taken that in
consideration when they wrote the program. I mean you can't very well ask the
purchaser of software to re-install a major program – The Toaster – onto
another hard drive, just so you can run a program that is suppose to be an add
on to the Toaster.
Just for the record, Pro Wipes is an excellent program if you are into wipes
and effects. The people wipes are a lot smoother than the Toaster people wipes.
Fred
Fred,
The reason for being squeemish with regard to re-installing Toaster software
onto a different drive has to do with a couple of things.
1. Amigados assign commands could create conflicts depending on companion
software that is installed such as the Wipes package you mentioned. Things that
may have worked perfectly before the move may not run at all because they were
originally "assigned" by the system to be on another path. You can easily
modify your user startup file (it's just a text file) to reflect the
installation changes, but some are reluctant to take the chance of running into
trouble if context isn't exactly followed.
2. Toaster saves it's project files in such a way that you may have difficulty
loading fonts or CG pages (even lightwave files) if you have moved the files
required to a differnt directory than they were in when last saved.
Incedently, the reason your Pro-Wipes package needs to be installed onto the
same HD as the Toaster is a restriction imposed by the Toaster program itself.
It requires that any effects be available in the same directory in order to
load.
BTW, congrats on doing the review. It's nice to have a fresh viewpoint on
products. WHich mag are you writing it for?
Frank
Fred,
I have crammed 3.1 on an 84 Meg (formatted) Syquest cart, by deleting some
fonts, Images, non .FP versions etc… It can be done.
Later, Jim
Jim,
I also seem to remember reading in either AV Video or Toaster User Magazine,
about deleting some files that are not used in 3.1. It is times like this you
wonder how you ever got a long with computers that had 16K memory and a
cassette tape for storage.
What is the saying "Nature abhors a vaccuum". I am right now working on filling
up a 480 meg hard drive that is running Stacker on my office PC.
Fred
Fred,
Since you have the larger drive, as Frank suggested, you can move a lot of
stuff from the Toaster 3D directory over to the other drive. Your paths will
get kinda screwed up, but that's minor inconvenience… <g>
Also, for the record, the Toaster software runs fine on hard drives other than
the original Amiga-installed drive. Mine's running right now on a 1GB SCSI
drive, and running a heckuva lot faster than it did on that 120 MB that came
with the A4000.
Jerry
You might wanna contact Daniel Sternklar(???) he posted here a while back
that he puts the Toaster Software on a CD-ROM thus avoiding the
HD size Dilemma….dunno what he charges for this service tho…..
I do know that Blank CD-ROM media is approx $15-$20 each