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#3DS vs. Alias

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#179791From: Ronald K. LussierJul 12, 1995 11:54 PM
>>I am looking into moving to SGI equipment and Alias Power Animator. I use Studio 3d now. I would like some feedback on this move. << Hi Guy, I've been using 3DS for over 3 years, and have had access to Alias for the last 6 months or so (and Prisms for more than a year). I still use and rely on 3DS, though if I could afford an SGI for home, I might have purchased one in the last year or 2. As much time as it takes to get to know a package well enough to create really good work, quickly, it's hard to get to know multiple systems, and I have Studio at home, so . . . Looking at the 3D market, IMHO, it is not the time to invest too much in a particular package or system. _Everything_ will change in the next 6 to 9 months (I know, that's always true. But more so for the 3D GFX industry right now.) But one very interesting thing about this years SIGGRAPH, I think, will be that almost every package I've been watching will be showing a "major" new upgrade. 3DS R5, Alias v7, Prisms v6, SoftImage v? & and their NT version, and more, I'm sure. –Prisms– (I know, I know. . . "who?") – a rebiult system, new interface, NURBS, lots of little stuff, and a _new_ package they won't talk about till Siggraph. I loved where this package could go(!?). You could say that Prisms is the package in which you can do _anything_. . . Of course it might take just a little while . . And unfortunately they seem to be going in a rather esoteric(?) direction (they've always had a wild interface). But you never know! –Alias– – completely new user designable interface (little icons, big icons, text w/ or w/out icons), new action window (they needed it!), updated lip syncing, and probably lots more. Alias V7 is a package I'll be keeping a close eye on. They have been working on this change for a while (sounds familiar), and have also been aware of their poor performance in the area of animation. Then again, with that SGI/Wavefront merger who knows what's changed. Alias does have a few things over most other packages. Mainly in it's modelling capabilities. Their modeller is _amazing_. But their animation capabilities are just catching up in most areas (though their IK _feels_ quick and comfortable) Alias' interface has also been poor, it can become extremely crowded on screen, much too easily (but that's changing). The Opti/FX module has been extremely impressive (lighting SFX, now hair(!) ). –SoftImage– – I didn't even know about this one until last week and don't have a clue (I think some one said NURBS) –3DS– – new operating system, new interface, who knows what else. <g> 3DS hasn't changed in the basis of it's Modelling or Animation modules much in a while (excluding IPAS), and modelling is a common "weak point" brought up about Studio, so I expect a rather major change in those areas and probably all over. Of course, until Siggraph, we're all guessing. . . . Think about this for a sec . . . A group of people, Yost Group, get to write, from the ground up, the "next generation" for a package like 3D Studio, knowing they have to compete with, and succeed in, a quickly shifting and expanding industry. They've been working on it for (more than?) 2 years, and we've got (approximately) 6 or 7 months to go for a full release. I have a feeling this is going to be quite an impressive Release. And I'm afraid it will be hard to impress me, my expectations are very high. <g> This should be a _very_ interesting Siggraph. I'll probably be just as torn, but it will all be new! Just my opinion. – Ron "My entire universe is filled with children of Dummies"
#179802From: Yost GroupJul 13, 1995 12:51 AM
That's a very informed, well-reasoned, and insightful message, Ron. It certainly _will_ be an interesting Siggraph. I can't wait! – G
#180358From: Ronald K. LussierJul 16, 1995 3:39 AM
Thanks, Gary. Though I hear now, that the SI for NT thing is actually much further off. I don't have a connection at SoftImage right now, so all that info is heresay. Be seeing you, – Ron
#180449From: Yost GroupJul 16, 1995 9:50 PM
That's what I've heard too. Given the fact that they're trying to use the same code stream for both Unix and NT, it might be a loooong time before it becomes 'real'. (and even then, it won't be a Windows program.. ) – G
#179867From: Guy GalerJul 13, 1995 10:39 AM
Ron, Thanks for the insight. I have been wrestling with this one for awhile. I used do all my 3-D on a Amiga, using Impulse's Imagine. I was using Turbo Silver originally and all the complaints about user interfaces on SGI software cannot compete with Impulse. 3DS has spoiled me. I can walk into a book store and actually find books written about it. Have not seen any books on Alias or Softimage. I still use Imagine for the PC, but only when I have to. 3DS is a much more professional package. The gripe I do have with it is that the plug-ins, which I do like, also hurt the package. I like being able to buy plug-ins that do various things, but there are some draw backs when they are not included in the package. For one, when the new release comes out, we will probably have to wait to get updates of our plug-ins. Many of the plug ins do so many things that are standard on other systems. With the plug ins, you can have new features show up quicker by a third party, then thet stay there and are never part of the package. example, if an inverse kinematic plug in existed prior to releas 4, Autodesk would probably have skipped that feature. I think the move to Windows NT is going to be a good one. I think this will be great for the power-users of the program. I don't think it will be so great for novice users that don't want to spend the money for memory in order to just run NT. Back to SGI, I am going to demo Alias software and Softimage and see what I think. I would rather stay with 3DS, since I know it, but I also want to do more photorealistic renderings which I think 3DS was not designed for.