CompuServe Thread

Hi Guys & Gals, Two quick questions, I'm assisting an A'CAD person teach a 3DS class – no problemo's However, we do have 2 small gliches…Errrrr 1. When we export from A'CAD 13 using the buildin 3DS filter, then import into 3ds we get strange face changes..(ie a capped cylindical object in A'CAD pulls into 3ds with the cap faces vertices to one side and the face built from that side…(it's difficult to visualise cos' it difficult to explain) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The DXF export works perfectly~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Anyway is there any tricks to keep in mind when exporting to a 3ds file from inside ACAD 13? Since the great "-G" invented the 3ds file format, I suspose the problem must be in A'CAD13 export filter? 2. We have just loaded A'CAD 13 and R4 (on the same PC's – yes using different configuration) and now we get a "Dongle missing" error in R4….Is there some special order for the dongles? I have hear you should NOT upgrade R3 to R4, but delete (except your matlibs) and install as new ?????? Think it will fix the problem? PS: I saw "Quicktime VR" to-day…it was so good, so interactive, so cheap, it was scary….Check-it-out.. CU GH In OZ