CompuServe Thread

#Workbench for novices

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#4813From: J BaylessAug 6, 1988 10:58 PM
Please see my earlier messages. Under the scheme I have described there would be NO identical icon information on the disk, nor would the icon information be visible from the CLI. It would, however, make every file visible from the Workbench (of course, you could make files "invisible" from the Workbench if you wanted to, but the default would be to show them–without the need for ".info" files).
#4883From: Thomas HoladayAug 7, 1988 11:14 AM
No practical scheme for default icons will avoid the visual assault of identical icons. Nothing I see in your earlier messages appears to address this issue. It is far, far better to have no icon than to have the information-free visual clutter of identical default icons.
#4903From: Henry ColonnaAug 7, 1988 3:26 PM
It is far better to have a "visual assault of identical icons" (talk about being dramatic 🙂 ) than to be robbed of the ability and power to customize a system for flexible multitasking, and not being able to do some very important and simple system manipulations. As Doug pointed out to me, that would be obnoxious to the C: directory. Perhaps default icons could be user-specified to turn off for each directory, instead of globally.
#5001From: John DraperAug 8, 1988 3:26 AM
'robbed of the ability to customize…' That's pretty dramatic in itself Henry. If you refuse to use the tools that are provided, or that are available, you are robbing yourself. If a compatible scheme could provide for easily set switches to get rid of icons for all but the necessary icons, and more importantly, if a file could be told to be devoid of an icon on a more permanent basis, I'd be all for it. -larry
#4944From: J BaylessAug 7, 1988 9:40 PM
Well, obviously if you stick to the CLI you will get your system of no icons, and with the scheme I am trying to describe you will also not get your clutter of .info files while still allowing those Workbench users the ability to get at all files. BTW, identical icons are actually a good thing in several situations. For example, you would generally want your word processor or paint program to use the same icon for the documents it creates–there is no point in having each new document created by ProWrite (for example) each have a different icon. The point of an icon is not to give a file a unique visual representation, but rather to identify the type of file, with the file name (which appears under the icon) giving the specifics. Contrary to what you are implying, the human eye does not operate well when scanning a visual clutter of a large number of dissimilar pictures–if it were then we would all be using a pictographic written language like Japanese. James Bayless New Horizons Software, Inc.
#5043From: Betty ClayAug 8, 1988 6:10 PM
You are right about people being confused by too many different images at once. I love being able to create my own icons, and I change mine frequently, but I like to have all directories on the same disk have the same icon, for example. On a different disk, I may want an entirely different image.
#5054From: Thomas HoladayAug 8, 1988 7:38 PM
Betty, After looking at one of your bookshelves, do you honestly maintain that it would be less confusing if all your books were the same size and color and differed from one another only by the name on the spine (in the same font)?