CompuServe Thread

Suggestions for new DU

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#6465From: Henry ColonnaAug 16, 1988 9:21 PM
You're not going to open 2 directories? Loud "EEK" to begin with. Not only should you open two, but you should have the option of opening 4 in Interlace mode. Here are some basics that's messed up in just about all DU's. These should all be "right" in my opinion: Scroll bars – fully functioning with repeating arrows. "MOVE" should work properly – as in between different devices. "COPY" should have the ability (toggle) to keep the same time/date stamp. "SORTING" should be flexible – size, date, name, extension. Buttons should be re-arrangeable in the order/pattern most comfortable for the user. A good idea would be to click, hold, and drag. Those are the basics, that no DU that I know of does properly currently. That doesn't cover (of course) the basic-basics, like listing the features of formatting, etc. Now, as far as other advanced features: The "read file" feature should be able to go backwards. NOt just go to beginning, but go backwards. <continued>
#6960From: David MastersonAug 19, 1988 1:04 AM
Hmmm… A new DU, huh? I'll put my two cents in, here. Two windows are a must – 4 is probably getting carried away (too confusing to unsophisticated users). Moving up/down the directory tree by clicking directory names — left button, left window — right button, right window. Significant number of buttons, even if arranged in pages. Large number of user definable buttons defined in easy to read text files (perhaps with configuration menus). Text file reader unnecessary — use MORE/LESS (its easily upgradeable and typically has more functions). Move/copy to another directory is obvious, but also copy file to new name within the directory. Interface to Workbench's Info, so icon definitions can be looked up. If possible, option to run file via its icon on the Workbench screen. Smarter interface to CLI — should pop to top of CURRENT screen. DU should use its own screen — front/back gadgets switch between it and Workbench screen. User definable button should support a small execute script and allow clicked files to be passed to it as arguments. Edit should be configurable (I like Emacs). Alternatively, DU should be a utility that gets hooked directly into the Workbench menus. Something to marry the CLI and Workbench environments. I wonder how Peter da Silvas Browser is coming along? David Masterson
#7144From: Betty ClayAug 20, 1988 1:47 AM
The last I heard, Peter was getting his Browser pretty well into shape. He had just about decided to go shareware rather than commercial. At least, that is what he was indicating on Usenet a week or so ago. There are MANY things about Peter's Browser that I like.
#7001From: John DraperAug 19, 1988 5:24 AM
Fascinating henry… seems you've gone from criticising programs that are out right up the ladder to criticising ones that are proposed only, with no idea if the way it is going to be done might just be a better way than having to have 2 directories. -larry
#7018From: Henry ColonnaAug 19, 1988 7:48 AM
Do you know of a way to do extensive disk operations effectively with only 1 displayed directory? Show me an example somewhere.
#7024From: KEITH YOUNGAug 19, 1988 10:53 AM
Henry, I used "Du5" for a _long_ time, (this was a yr or so ago) it only has one directory and was 'usable'. It may not be 'as' usefull as a two windowed one, but it did everything I needed to do. – Keith
#7079From: Henry ColonnaAug 19, 1988 9:06 PM
One directory open is laughable. ST owners complained they could only have 4 open – with a patch now they can have 8. If you lived with that many for a short time – even on GEOS (as an example, I don't know how GEOS works) 1 or 2 directories in the current DUs would seem very primitive indeed.
#7110From: Dale SchlottAug 19, 1988 11:39 PM
Herny, Just for the record I agree with Keith. Too me 4 directories on screen is primitive. I value my screen space. I also want as many files as possible for each directory I'm viewing on screen. Two is great. Three,Four,Eight, ick! your going down hill! Dale
#7128From: John DraperAug 20, 1988 12:43 AM
Henry, The message I replied to was one from you, deciding beforehand that the fellow who 'had a new way to do something' was all wet, and that he couldn't possibly do it without showing at least two directories. I never claimed to know a way to do that. What I objected to was your dismissal of it without even bothering to find out more about it. The floor of history is littered with those that say 'impossible'. -larry
#7169From: Henry ColonnaAug 20, 1988 7:39 AM
I agree with your general concept completely. However, this is pretty basic. I guess if he comes up with something new and brilliant, fine. I don't want it to slip into the mold of the other DUs with 1 directory, and nothing to overcome that limitation, or it will be a waste.