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#SW Copy Protection

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#6938From: Gregory B. TibbsAug 18, 1988 10:28 PM
I would respond to each situation accoring to its own merits. Certainly we all know where Bernard Goetz drew his line… And that was wrong. -Greg
#6945From: Black Belt SystemsAug 18, 1988 10:48 PM
Bernard Goetz… isn't that the "subway" fellow? If so, I would amend your statement to _you_ think it was wrong. _I_ don't. If you see stolen property, and are _positive_ it is stolen property, then as far as I am concerned, you have a duty to report it. I don't see _any_ difference between you spotting the bastard who stole my motorcycle and someone who steals my software. I don't really understand how anyone else could see a difference either, unless they were truly ethical morons. –Ben–
#7002From: Gregory B. TibbsAug 19, 1988 6:11 AM
Of course it someone stole _MY_ software then I'd be inclined to do something about it. But if it was the other fella's software….. <GRIN> OK. The government of New York thought Goetz was wrong, many thousands elsewhere thought he was wrong and I thought he was wrong. If you are gonna shoot somebody, you don't wait 'till they have turned their backs. Unless your motorcycle is customized then how would I know it from a million other motorcycles of the same make? If I accused each and every person I see with a motorcycle similar to yours of stealing it, some Goetz-type may just get ticked off and blow me away. And perhaps rightfully so. I would have had no business harassing these people. If I personally see that bastard steal your motorcycle then I might take action. At least get a description of the person doing it — and report it to police. Software theft is a totally different argument because the damaged party is a third person. It's non-violent. The author and software companies don't even know that a specific crime has occurred. A certain amount can be anticipated. I recommend that software companies and distributors make the retailers go to the club meetings to monitor the club's copying activities and to bring legal action if needed. They can also get a sales pitch in, so they should have no complaint. As far as the club is concerned, we have an anti-theft policy in effect. We enforce that by turning off people's machines (after a warning) who use <continued>
#7003From: Gregory B. TibbsAug 19, 1988 6:11 AM
<continuation> Marauder during the meeting. We do this for the club's protection, not the software author's. The club's rules do not extend beyond meetings and organized public events. So what is done away from the meeting is not of any concern to the club, as it's liability is over. I truly feel sorry for you and other software authors that software theft is hurting you. If everyone had your ethics then this would be a non-issue, wouldn't it? Putting up a paper bag argument and then using it to draw conclusions about others is not a way of convincing people to take your side of an issue. -Greg
#7139From: Black Belt SystemsAug 20, 1988 1:37 AM
I think your last paragraph was totally off base, in all ways, so I'll ignore it. As far as my bike goes, it's quite identifiable – there weren't millions like it, it was customized – highly so – and of course has vid #s in all the right places. And a bike w/o vid #s needs to be reported too. As for you only reporting your software – well, I don't even need to say anything here. –Ben–
#7427From: Steve TibbettAug 21, 1988 10:53 PM
Ben, I'm sure you would get sick of getting 15 phone calls a day from people saying "Yeah, Hi, Ben, lissen, I just saw Joe Schmoe using an illicit copy of PCLOjr. Fly down here and nuke him, OK?" …Steve
#7460From: Doug WingerAug 21, 1988 11:57 PM
Steve, You don't know Ben then. 8)
#7493From: Vic WagnerAug 22, 1988 3:03 AM
Gee, when he was here, he almost depleted my supply of small nukes. I suspect he could handle 20 days worth of phone calls with just what he left here.