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#RK07 & Basic plus

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#57166From: Don MolJun 19, 1990 8:37 PM
HELP…I need some cables to hook up two RK07s, I'm too cheap to buy them from DEC!!! I thought that somebody might have some extras in there "junk" box (grin). Also I need a copy of b [A [Asorry about that… I also need a copy of basic plus, I bought a used system,got all the books, with the tape but for some unknown, I can't read it. If you could help me out on any or all… give me a E-Mail or call at 616-453-8210 (ask for Don). Just about forgot…. Believe it or not, I am in the look for more RK07s and Disk Packs. Thank you for your time… Don Mol
#57167From: Bill Mayhew [VAX/DECPC]Jun 19, 1990 9:17 PM
Please note that it is NOT legal for one customer to transfer Digital software to another customer, except for operating systems which can be sold along with the CPU on which they are licensed (and some other products like DECnet which are effectively licensed to the machine, not just to the customer). The only legal way for you to solve your Basic-Plus problem is to get Digital to provide you with a readable tape, but of course you will also have to persuade them that you have a legitimate license for the product. -Bill
#57170From: Christoper Zach,Jun 20, 1990 11:21 AM
Bill: Speaking of licences, I have a question: If one sells a computer to a company like Midwest (which reformatts all of it's disks), or dumps the CPU , can one have the licence transferred to another CPU of like power? (AKA I dump my 11/45 for a 23+. Can I run the old software on the new machine, 1 licence, 1 machine) Chris
#57171From: Bill Mayhew [VAX/DECPC]Jun 20, 1990 12:11 PM
Chris, Operating system licenses are transferable to a new owner, with the CPU only; you can't transfer them to a new CPU that you own. Layered product licenses (e.g. BASIC or whatever) are transferable to a new CPU, within your organization only; you can't transfer them to a different owner… sort of the opposite of the operating system licenses. A very few products that one might think of as "layered" are actually "system-integrated" and follow the operating-system rules, e.g. DECnet. Any of these transfers are supposed to be accomplished via a DEC Software License Redesignation Form, I believe. I'm not 100% certain that a same-owner transfer of a layered product license to a new CPU requires a form, but I think it does. -Bill
#57172From: Bill Mayhew [VAX/DECPC]Jun 20, 1990 12:15 PM
Chris, I forgot to mention: On a same-owner, new-CPU transfer of a layered-product license, a cost-free transfer can only be done if the new CPU is at the same, or a lower, price tier when compared with the previous CPU. This is most significant in the VAX world where there are a lot of price tiers. In the PDP-11 family, there are only two tiers, and I *think* the 11/83 and 11/84 (and, presumably, /93 and /94) are the sole occupants of the high-price tier. If you go from a low-tier machine to a high-tier machine, you have to pay the price difference. -Bill
#57169From: Christoper Zach,Jun 20, 1990 11:18 AM
Don: Hm. I have a RK07 sitting in my basement. Where do you live? As far as the cables, regular RL01/02 cables should work also. What OS are you running, and what kind of 11 do you have? Chris Zach