#HP Deskjet w/ Amigas
17 messages in this thread
Mike,
Yep, knew about the envelopes. However, someone else noted that he
was using laserlabels, or some such. A product made specifically for doing
labels in a laser printer. So apparently there is actually some label
products out there designed to run through machines like the DJ and won't
gum up the works (pun intended).
Steve
Steve:
I know of laser labels, I use them in my laser printer all the time. I was
under the impression that the DJ couldn't handle them though. (I thought it
had something to do with the sharp bend that the paper takes through the
DJ)
-Mike Schiller
In sunny Fort Lauderdale
Steve,
I did hold my breath as I ran the first one through, but I am on my
second box of 3M Laser/Copier Lables and I have had no problems.
-Paul-
You are so right. Do _not_ use Laserjet labels in an HP Deskjet. Laserjet
labels have an extra-tough glue (so that they don't melt off when they pass
through the laserjet's heat fusing phase) and are very, very difficult to
remove from the Deskjet's paper-feeding reels. I beleive there are now
Deskjet labels (HP used to recommend Avery).
Mike,
Don't know. Someone else had left me a message about them. Said
he was using them successfully. Perhaps you might give them a try and see
if they work for you. I've never tried them, myself.
Steve
The labels I have been using are a new line of 3M laser/copier labels
called "The Problem Solver". Ths adhesive is very similar in properties to
"Post It" labels. They can be easily removed and repositioned. So I doubt
that they could "gum up the works" so to speak. But if HP recommends a
specific brand I would like to give them a try. The 3M labels are not
"sticky" enough to wrap around an edge (like disk labels). So I am looking
for a "stickier" label that is DJ safe.
-Paul-
Try 'Disks and Labels To Go', for 3.5" disk labels. They come 6 to a page,
and are quite sticky. The company advertises in Computer Shopper.
-larry
Steve,
The laser labels work fine on the Desk Jet+. The problem comes when you
actually have to use those labels. Because the ink is water soluable, you
are taking a risk in addressing mail with them (think about our poor mail
carriers in the summer time. It's hot, the're hot and they tend to
perspire. Damp hands on a Desk Jet label makes the day 'ikky' as well as
hot 🙂
Regards,
Allen
Allen,
I understand that's a problem. Someone else mentioned having a
similar result and recommended "painting" the label with some sort of
protectant. I also hear that HP has been attempting to make an ink that's
less likely to run. The cartridge I have is the one that came with the DJ,
which is about 4 months old. I have used a moistened finger on a printed
page (using copier paper) and it doesn't run at all. I haven't tried
"raining" on it, but a wet finger doesn't seem to matter. Perhaps HP has
improved the ink formula. Of course label stock tends not to be as porous
as copier paper.
Steve
I have tried printing "business cards" for my kids on high quality bristol
board. It's not very porous either, but I can tell you a wet hand was all
it took to get them to run.
— Mike
Mike,
I haven't tried that yet. I know that lots of folks have reported
their woes with running ink. I also know that HP was supposedly working to
reformulate its ink to help minimize the problem, but I don't know if they
actually have a new product out on the market. The one that came with my
DJ seems reasonably immune on ordinary copier paper, after it dries, but I
haven't tried printing on less porous material. I'm sure that if the ink
is still the same formula that it will be much more susceptible to running
on slick surfaces. I've heard that people have tried refilling their
cartridges with other inks which do not run, but haven't seen a definitive
decision on which inks work best and don't clog or dry out in the
cartridge. A Schaeffer ink was one that I recall.
Steve
Ink formulation is certainly more art than science. It also takes longer
for the ink to dry on bristol board, but oh, what a look — just like from
the printer's (until it gets wet.) Even though they specify the kind of
paper to use by saying copier paper works best, the range of copier papers
is quite broad and copiers fuse the toner to the paper by an entirely
different process in any event. One nice thing about real ink — if you've
ever put laser printed pages or xerographic copies in a vinyl-clad binder
and then had to peel the front page away from the binder cover, leaving
most of the print fused to the vinyl — it can't happen with real ink!!
— Mike
Mike,
I haven't tried this – but would the spray art teachers use to protect
pencil drawings work on your cards?
……Betty
Mike,
That's true!!! I especially run into that problem with
transparencies. What a mess when you put one up on the overhead only to
find that pieces of letters are clinging to something other than the
transparency!!
Steve
There is a thread going over in the HP Forum that is probably older than we
are. but I just started following it recently when I got a DJ+. It has to
do with reinking DJ and DJ+ cartridges. They have tried everything from
chocolate syrup to liquid shoe polish. One interesting suggestion was to
use (I think I recall it) Berol T Touche or somebody's T Touch ink, which
offered the advantage of being waterproof and adhereing to tranparency
cels. I don't recall reading any reports after trying it. If your question
is primarily DJ+ oriented, you may want to follow the very active message
base over there. — Mike (not the one from Lattice)
Mike,
I downloaded quite some time back the text files {which followed
the thread on refilling DJ cartridges, so I am somewhat familiarqEHwith it.
I haven't hadxD occasion to refill mine, yet, but will probably try some of
the suggestions from that thread. I recall mention of the Berol product,
Schaeffer, and several others which were tried with varying
Q+5Steve