CompuServe Thread

Computer Shopper

16 messages in this thread
#36861From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSJul 30, 1990 11:23 PM
Bob, I agree that Computer Shopper, on the whole, is a most excellent computer magazine, particularly in its Amiga coverage. The only flaw I see in Computer Shopper is that you waste space that could well be used for important matters, such as Amiga coverage or advertising, with 'Levitations'. But, since there is so much to like about Computer Shopper, I just skip the column on my way to the Amiga articles. –Eet– Director of Mayhem Extra Terrestrial Imports, Ltd.
#36909From: Gregory B. TibbsAug 1, 1990 8:32 AM
My problem is the number of trees that must be cut down to print that 'luggable' magazine! 😉 -Greg
#37485From: Bob LindstromAug 18, 1990 3:06 PM
Gregory: I want to point out that not only are we responsible for the rampant defoliation of forests, we are NOT responsible for any physical injury you may incur while reading or otherwise lifting Computer Shopper. Seriously, we DO have an officewide recycling program in place at Ziff, so we are doing a little to help things out…. Thanks for the comments, Bob L.
#37491From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIAug 18, 1990 8:01 PM
Bob, Do you still get "hate mail" from the Postal Employees? And that starting in a few months the magazine will have to be delivered by UPS? Lloyd
#37947From: Bob LindstromSep 1, 1990 8:48 AM
Lloyd: In reference to those occasions when I have had mail spindled, folded or mutilated, I refer to Computer Shopper as "Bob's Revenge." And remember, we are not responsible for any back injuries, muscle strain or other physical infirmity that you may incur as a result of reading Coomputer Shopper. Best, Bob L.
#37969From: SyndesisSep 1, 1990 12:03 PM
And then there's the problem of confusing the "Editor of the World's Heaviest Computer Magazine" with the "World's Heaviest Editor of a Computer Magazine". 🙂
#37484From: Bob LindstromAug 18, 1990 3:04 PM
Ha. Ha. Wait'll I tell Levitan about this. You know, I suppose, that Arlan is a BIG Amiga supporter. In fact, he co-wrote the definitive guide to AmigaDOS. Good One, Bob L.
#37496From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSAug 18, 1990 8:13 PM
Judging from his other writing, if he cowrote the definitive guide to AmigaDOS, then it must be 1/2 about Epson or Apple or some such. For a "BIG amiga supporter", Levitan sure seems to hide it well in his columns. –Eet–
#37562From: Arlan LevitanAug 21, 1990 8:00 AM
Might I have the temerity to suggest that you actually look at the book before you come to a decision. I realize that actually having the facts runs counter to current trends in contemporary American thought, but you may wish to relyon them as a last resort. Commodore makes terrific hardware, has an extremely talented development team, but has been hamstrung over the years by one brain-dead marketing team after another….much of the trouble can be laid directly at the door of Irving Gould. Harry Copperman and company seem to be trying to break out of that pattern. I wish 'em all the best, but I'll be damned surprised (and pleased) if they make a go of it. Just so as not to disappoint you ..there will be a healthy handful of cheap shots tossed Commodore's way over the next few months, but if you doubt that the Amiga is one of my favorite machines, wait until the november issue of COMPUTE!…that should set the record straight.
#37722From: Christopher LapriseAug 26, 1990 2:06 AM
Coming from a different direction, couldn't one blame Commodore's "image problem" on the seeming necessity for corporations (almost any kind) to spew upscale, elegant images of their products (or simply THEMSELVES) all over television and printed journals? Are we Americans that sheepish, that we won't accept a product unless it's drowned in media-bliss? We couldn't stomach a politician who wouldn't have launched a TV ad campaign for themselves. I like paying less for my Amiga because Commodore isn't occupied with brainwashing us with images of 'respectability' and 'reliability' and 'just-plain-rightness' of the Amiga, and then mucking-up the 'image' of other corporations' products. Some food for thought..
#37723From: Arlan LevitanAug 26, 1990 9:30 AM
Commodore has spent lots of bucks on advertising….the problem is that few people remember the campaigns and ads. Last year's "Stevie" commercials and multi-page Time magazine spreads cost big-time bucks and failed to pump sales or image by a significant amount. Commodore has a special problem when it comes to dealing with the Fortune 500…much of it directly related to the stewardship of Irving Gould. For better or worse, many CEOs aren't terribly interested in doing business with a company that is chartered in the Bahamas as a tax dodge, or meeting Mr. Gould, who can't stay in the country for more than a few day's at a time. For fifty bucks a head, all Amiga owners could form a consortium, buy out Irving and make ME the titular head of Commodore. If you can make it happen, you can borrow the company jet on weekends. Ciao!
#37899From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSAug 30, 1990 7:12 PM
Oh, gawd…. and here I thought there could be nobody _worse_ than Gould at the helm of CBM. <grin> –Eet– Director of Mayhem Extra Terrestrial Imports, Ltd.
#37901From: Bill EastburnAug 30, 1990 8:18 PM
Sure there could!! Tramiel could come back!! Bill, K3OZM
#37906From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIAug 30, 1990 11:29 PM
Bill, "Just when you thought it was safe to go back to your computer……" Lloyd
#37939From: Arlan LevitanSep 1, 1990 7:11 AM
Okay Jim…If I can't beg a kind word, I'm certainly not averse to buying one. You're a shoe-in for Director for Development of Undeliverables once I take over. Just get the Lamborghini waxed before you return it.
#37948From: Bob LindstromSep 1, 1990 8:50 AM
Well, Arlan's charter in his Computer Shopper is not necessarily to be an Amiga booster; but, rather, to discuss issues related to the computer industry at large. You can find Arlan's writing about Amiga matters in other publications. Best, Bob L.