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#3 1/2 high density

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#32649From: marcel jacquesAug 22, 1991 8:32 AM
Except for the AE drive (High density ) Has someone suceeded in interfacing a 3 1/2 drive high density to the amiga softwarly and hardwarely ? I got a 2 megabytes 3 1/2 drive hook up to my amiga , it works for the 880k format but as soon as i try to change the sector in the mountlist it does not work . Any hints or help would be apreciated !!!!!!!!
#32668From: Gregory B. TibbsAug 22, 1991 11:38 AM
The big problem is that the Amiga is designed to put out data onto floppy at 1 Mhz. A 2 Mhz clock is required for high density drives. Thus, the only way to add one is to put a drive on that slows the rate which the disk spins to half normal speed. One of the problems with this technique is that the ability of a stock motor (i.e. it's torque) is much less and the control logic has a difficult time maintaining an exact speed. Drag variations within different floppy manufacturers cause some disk to work and others to not to. The AE drives are slightly faster than half, thus cannot write MS-DOS high density diskettes. At least that's what I have heard. The true solution would be to extend the custom chipset to write data at 2X the current speed; IF it were modified, then a 4X clock option would be better to write for 2.8 Meg drivers, etc. Setting the number of sectors to a number larger than allowed will cause the disk to be written more than one full track. Obviously if the filesystem you are using even accepted that, you wouldn't be able to read back what you read and would be constantly losing data. -Greg
#32696From: Andre PageAug 22, 1991 9:04 PM
I've seen a 1.44 drive for old macs that works on the SCSI port on Mac Pluses do you think something like that would work on an Amiga? / / //ANDRE
#32732From: Gregory B. TibbsAug 23, 1991 8:12 AM
Biggest problem would be how to put a filesystem on it. IF you wanted fast file system, it would probably not be a problem. IF you wanted MS-DOS 1.44 compatibility, you'd need a custom filesystem that knew about SCSI direct. -Greg
#33106From: Andre PageAug 28, 1991 2:05 AM
It probably wouldn't be worth the trouble. I looked up the SCSI Floppy… It is called the PLI Turbo Floppy $309.00 from "The Mac Zone" mail order. You might as well pay another couple hundred and get a Syquest! / / //ANDRE
#33140From: Mike SchillerAug 28, 1991 3:47 PM
Greg: The SCSI floppy I sell (10meg 5.25") is the same one as PLI sold in their Infinity-10 drive (drive is made by Konica), and I bought these drives from PLI myself! I sell them for $200.00, so the SyQuest's price is now $300.00 or so more, thereby making the Konica look better all the time. -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#33162From: Jonathan HirschmanAug 28, 1991 10:21 PM
Mike– A raw Syquest, ready to pop into the underused 5-1/4" bay in the 2000 series is $359 (or $369) from APS; they advertise in the Computer Shopper. You can get the luxo Mac version with cable, SCSI selector, terminator and cart (with 18 megs of Mac software) for $459…just FYI… Jonathan Jonathan – from Albany, NY, via whap!
#33212From: Steve SetzerAug 29, 1991 4:52 PM
Mike, Do these drives come with case & power supply? ..Steve Whap!ping from beautiful coastal South Carolina
#33216From: Betty Clay/SYSOPAug 29, 1991 6:07 PM
Well, a recent Computer Shopper advertised the Syquest for $359, with cartridges for $75. That sounded pretty good to me, too. Betty
#33073From: marcel jacquesAug 27, 1991 8:20 AM
Thank-you for your help . That confirm the facts I discussed with a friend from Montreal . -Marcel
#32710From: Mike SchillerAug 22, 1991 11:37 PM
Marcel: While not a 3.5 drive, and perhaps not what you had in mind, the following is the bulk of a post I'm making to the classified section later tonight, perhaps this might help you some. I have some Konica KT510 10 meg floppy drives for sale. These drives will work with many Amiga SCSI controllers and will allow you to read and write to a specially formatted 5.25" floppy disk up to 10 megs of data. These drives can also read 1.2 meg IBM formatted disks as well as 360k IBM formatted disks by using CrossDOS using a single mountlist entry! As far as I know this is the only drive that allows reading the 1.2 meg IBM format directly on an Amiga (the AT Bridgeboard doesn't count). The major limitation of these drives is that for some reason they won't work with GVP controllers, although this is being looked into, and there may be a work around for this. I've personally tested these drives with the MicroBotics HardFrame, Supra's Wordsync controller, the A2091, And the A3000's SCSI port. ICD says that the drive should work on their controller. It should work with most any SCSI controller that doesn't depend upon anything special with the SCSI-II specification. The price for the bare drive (no case or power supply) is $200.00. Media (disks) for the drive are available either in bulk from Konica, or individually from me, call or Email for more info. If you're interested, you may leave me Email here, or call me at my office 8AM-4PM Eastern time @ 1-800-327-9420 or you may call me after these hours @ 305-733-6204 or 6205. Email to SCHILLER on GEnie or BIX, 76416,3065 on CompuServe or uflorida!novavax!agrijag!mike on UUCP/Usenet -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#32959From: michel beausejourAug 25, 1991 10:08 PM
Hi Mike, How much for each disk(media)? Michel Beausejour
#32978From: Mike SchillerAug 26, 1991 1:08 AM
Michel: The cost of individual disks is about $20.00 each. I'm sorry I can't give you an exact price, but I havn't finalized the deal with Konica (for the media) yet. -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale