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#I've Got 17 Inches Now!!

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#67749From: David McCabeAug 29, 1992 8:35 PM
I have just acquired a 17 inch Mitsubishi C-3920 monitor for evaluation. This is an old 1986 model, but has been in storage for the last 4 years. The manual claims that it is a "multi frequency use" high resolution color display monitor. The spec page claims the following:6 Scanning Frequency:6 a) Vertical Frequency : 40-70 Hz6 b) Horizontal Frequency : 15.5 KHz 23.5 KHz6 The input connectors are the BNC type for R-G-B and composite or divided sync. I have connected it to my Amiga 1000 and it works ok, _except_ I have to switch the loop-through for the composite sync as if I had another load downstream. This is _only_ the composite sync. Is this because the horizontal sync is not matched? I lost my schematics and specs for my 1000 in a recent move, and I don't remember the spec. Will this monitor work with other Amiga's, esp. the ones of the future? It would be very cheap for me to buy, but I will change my Amiga one day (hopefully b4 Xmas 🙂 and if it works with the 3000 or the 4000, that would be great.6 6 ADVthanxANCE,6 David6 PS The manual has a page for setting jumpers on the PCB-DEFL for hor. freq. selection, and the chart lists like this: LOW 15.5/18.5 HIGH 18.5/23.5 Does this mean it will sync to 18.5 no matter what the setting?
#67754From: David ArtAug 29, 1992 9:21 PM
David, The monitor will work for you at standard frequency, 15.75 KHz, but not with the deinterlacer in the A3000, which requires 31.5 KHz. To restate, it would work with an A3000, but only in the same way it works on your A1000 – with interlaced video (and flicker). Depending on how well you tolerate flicker, if the price is right, it might be worth having a 17" monitor. My guess on the jumper settings would be that you're actually choosing LOW or HIGH with the jumper labeled LOW, and choosing which HIGH with the jumper labeled high. It's sort of a moot point, though, since only the 15.75 setting will work with an Amiga. Hope this helps, 8) David
#67851From: David McCabeAug 30, 1992 11:00 AM
David, Actually, I am using it in interlace mode for WB and View! It has _very_ long persistence phosphors, so I see _no_ flicker at all. However, animations leave a trail on the screen. This is not a big problem since the only animation I normally see is from games, and I can live with that. Since it will not work with the deinterlacer in the 300, does that preclude the use of certain screen modes? If so, which ones? Thanx for your response. PS A huge moniter is a very nice addition to a computer system!!! 🙂 David
#67944From: David ArtAug 30, 1992 11:08 PM
David, You won't be able to use any of the Productivity modes, which sync at 31.5 KHz horizontal, just like the deinterlacer. I've recently hooked up my A500 to a 20" TV with video inputs for my daughters. I know what you mean about how nice the larger monitor is. Interesting thing is that even though a Nintendo is hooked up to the same set and either one can be played at the touch of a button, they have almost exclusively used the A500 since it's been available to them. (I say _almost_ because I'm not around all the time to watch them. To the best of my knowledge, they haven't played it at all.) Before, when the choice was to play on the A500 with a 13" screen or Nintendo on the 20" TV, they'd usually opt for the Nintendo. Maybe there's something to CDTV after all? David
#67792From: Don Curtis/SYSOPAug 30, 1992 2:24 AM
David, My *guess* is that the jumpers are to set the range of the horizontal scanning circuitry. Low would be for any horizontal frequence range between 15.5kHz and 18.5kHz and the high would be for horizontal frequencies between 18.5 and 23.5 kHz. In your case, you'd want the jumper on the low position. As to why you need an additional load on the composite sync line, there could be several reasons for that…if it works with an external load…I wouldn't worry about it. Don
#67852From: David McCabeAug 30, 1992 11:00 AM
Don, The funny part is that I don't have an external load on the sync line. I just flick the switch to the "high" impedance setting and there is nothing connected to the loop-through BNC connector. If I set it to 75 ohms, I lose the entire picture on the moniter. There is a switch inside the monitor for Int/Ext sync, and when I tried that at Int, nothing worked, so I leave it set at Ext, with the sync line set to "high". I don't think this will cause any damage, but I would like to be sure. Any info about that? Thanx for your help. David
#67878From: peter selverstoneAug 30, 1992 5:10 PM
The Amiga's composite sync output is a TTL signal, not 75 ohm. The unterminated switch position is correct for this and shouldn't cause any problem provided that the monitor can handle the 5 volt signal (which I expect it can). Peter.
#68094From: David McCabeAug 31, 1992 10:18 PM
Peter, Since you seem to know about monitors, what would you think a fair value of this monitor is? Specs again: Mitsubishi 19" (Yes, I just noticed it says 19 " on the manual!!) High resolution Color Display Monitor Connectors: 5 BNC for R-G-B plus comp/hor sync and v/sync 75 Ohm termination switchs Blanking: Horiz < 9.0 us Vert < 850 us Scanning Freq: Horiz 15.5 KHz 23.5 KHz Vert 40-70 Hz Max Eff Screen Size: 350(W) x 265(H) mm Also On the back of the Monitor, on the serial number plate, is a date of 1986. Thanx David
#67948From: Don Curtis/SYSOPAug 30, 1992 11:20 PM
David, Peter is the expert on monitors so I'm sure his advice is correct. Don