CompuServe Thread

#DUAL HD BOOT

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#108696From: Steven D. KapplinJul 30, 1993 3:40 PM
Robb, Yes, 2.1 still offers the option of file system. From your perspective it also seems to have undergone improvements in the areas of telecommuncations and networking, but I don't know much about what that means for you, since I never knew much about networking to begin with! As for the telecomm aspects, the main things appear to be better support for com ports and com chips. The article I read about NT didn't indicate the distribution media, but given the size it would be hard to imagine that CD ROM wouldn't be the choice. For those who go that route we're talking now about the added cost of the CD ROM drive, perhaps a SCSI card. Maybe NT is an abbreviation for Not for The masses! Yes, we are now fairly off the mark of this thread!!!! And I guess I was a little off the mark on what I remebered MVS machines used in RAM space. Gee, do you suppose those MVS apps are even more bloated than the Windows apps? I don't remember any stats on memory requirements for any of the mainframe software I used to use before there were PCs.
#108716From: Robert LittleJul 30, 1993 6:52 PM
Steven, Well, it's good to hear I won't be forced into HPFS. Of course support for all the dos and all the windows stuff is probably the main reason OS/2 is so huge! I'm really trying to avoid the paperwork to get an upgrade to 2.1 but, I'm just going to have to do it. Not for The masses, a little more true for NT than OS/2 (not much). Even though we're off the thread, really, I still am interested in getting a HiDensity Floppy for mi-Amiga. If I remember right, you said it was a few years since you've worked with MVS. Alot has changed. If it was 10(ish?) years ago, there was a 16m limit. That's when 64k in a micro would do(?). But, that has changed. And yes, it is kind of a fat bloated kludge, in a lot of ways. I bet there's simply ancient code that is still running in it. But, it does get one hell of a lot of work through it, fast! We're talking on the order of people at 30,000+ terminals using it and 10-100 batch jobs and gigabytes of page dasd (swap files) and more and we don't have a really big system. Our corporate counterparts in Concord and San Francisco, now they have some BIG machines! Oh, I checked on the 'actual' size of the memory on our machines. They each have 768 meg. The one machine had 72 mips, before the 6th CPU was added. If you've coded assemlber on both 370 and 68000 or other mainframes/micros both, you'll know why I say the mips don't compare.
#108747From: Steven D. KapplinJul 30, 1993 9:47 PM
Robb, You have lots of power at your fingertips. Yes, it's probably been about 10 years since I bought my first Osborne PC. I haven't used a mainframe since then!! I swear I couldn't log onto one if my life depended on it. I do believe that some mail order houses have the internal HD floppies for the 3000s, but I haven't seen an external drive available other than the AED drive.
#109288From: Malcolm O'BrienAug 4, 1993 12:25 AM
Steven, NT = Not on Time 😉 Malcolm