Animator Pro 1.3 & OS/2
11 messages in this thread
Well, it's me again <g>
Woe is me. I think I've got about 8 hairs left on my head!
I think I've tried to do this about upteen times.(run Animator Pro under OS/2
2.2). So any help or (more) suggestions would help.
Here is a message I left before;
Help!
Well, I've read the OS/2 Animator Pro messages, and I still can't get Animator
Pro 1.3 to run under OS/2 2.1. I've tried using the default settings, with
Animator running in full screen. No go!
I've set the DPMI = Enabled, DPMI mem limit to 64 meg (tried 30meg and some
other), Interupt during I/O to On; and still No go!
I've tried to run it under a DOS window and DOS full screen and I get this
error mesage: Abnormal program termination: Memory protection fault CS:EIP =
000Fh:000846F8h
I've got a 486 66mghtz, 32 meg of RAM, STB Pegusas (S3928 chip), I've tried
using the player for Animator, Aniplay, that does'nt work either.
I have my system set up for dual boot, so I dual boot it to Dos. If I want to
run Animator, but that gets to be a pain!
But I'm thinking of switching over to the HPFS.
Could there be something in my config.sys I have set up wrong?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks to all!
🙂
Greg
end of message.
If I set my DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT to 0 (Disabled) I get this message when I try to
run Animator under a DOS full screen window;
Phar Lap err 35: The 386 chip is currently executing in virtual 8086 mode under
the control of another program. You must turn off this other program in order
to use 386/DOS-Extender to run in protected mode.
end of message
I also have a Soundblaster 16ASP and a Toshiba CD rom, if that makes a
difference. I use the Video drivers supplied by STB for the S3 chip. They are
16bit drivers. Whats the difference between 16bit and 32bit drivers. They don't
have 32bit drivers.
When I use my Dual Boot, (to boot to DOS) if I don't rem out the 5th line and
try to run Animator, I get this on my screen:
062d)
SYSTEM HALTED
Then I have to reboot
(DOS config.sys)
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ARAM=DB80-DBFF R:1
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
rem DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP
SWAPSIZE=1024
Lastdrive=E
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 C:\TSCSI\MA13B.SYS
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:3 /res=10416 /sqf C:\TSCSI\TSLCDR.SYS /d:TSLCD
SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:2 C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /P
DOS=HIGH
FILES=30
STACKS=0,0
SHELL=c:\qemm\loadhi.com /r:3 /res=3008 /sqf C:\dos\command.com C:\dos\ /P
BUFFERS=10,0
end
When I rem this line out, Animator Pro runs just fine (under DOS).
Here is my OS/2 config.sys if it will help at all:
IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:64 /CRECL:4
PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET USER_INI=C:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET OS2_SHELL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS
SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET COMSPEC=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
LIBPATH=.;C:\OS2\DLL;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\;C:\OS2\APPS\DLL;C:\MMOS2\DLL;C:\OS2\SCRNSV
\DLL;
SET
PATH=C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\
S2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;
SET
DPATH=C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\BITMAP;
:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;C:\MMOS2\INSTALL;
SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
SET HELP=C:\OS2\HELP;C:\OS2\HELP\TUTORIAL;C:\MMOS2\HELP;
SET GLOSSARY=C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
FILES=20
DEVICE=C:\OS2\TESTCFG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\DOS.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\PMDD.SYS
BUFFERS=30
IOPL=YES
DISKCACHE=1024,LW,AC:C
MAXWAIT=3
MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048
BREAK=OFF
THREADS=256
PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
COUNTRY=001,C:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
SET KEYS=ON
REM SET DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;
BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
SET BOOKSHELF=C:\OS2\BOOK;C:\MMOS2;
SET EPMPATH=C:\OS2\APPS;
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\APPS\SASYNCDA.SYS
PROTECTONLY=NO
SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS
FCBS=16,8
RMSIZE=640
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
DOS=LOW,NOUMB
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCMCIA.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VPCMCIA.SYS
CODEPAGE=437,850
DEVINFO=KBD,US,C:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
REM DEVICE AND RUN STATEMENTS FROM YOUR OLDER CONFIG.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
REM DOS=HIGH
DEVINFO=SCR,BGA,C:\OS2\VIOTBL.DCP
SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_VGA
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\POINTDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM0
IFS=\OS2\CDFS.IFS /Q
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=T13BSCSI.ADD
DEVICE=C:\OS2\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS 1 1 5 5 220 8 /N:SBAud1$
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAud1$
SET MMBASE=C:\MMOS2;
SET DSPPATH=C:\MMOS2\DSP;
SET NCDEBUG=4000
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\ADSHDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SMVDD.SYS
SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVHENH)
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VENH.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\COM.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\COM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
end of OS/2config.sys
See, I want to switch over to the HPFS, I don't like to Dual boot just to run
Animator Pro <pain>
Thanks for any suggestions or help
Sorry If I'm a pain.
I just want to keep these last 8 hairs on my Head!
confused:-(
Greg
Let me try giving you a hand here. First of all, make a boot up disk
for your "a drive" and put this config.sys in there
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 X=D000-DFFF RAM ST:M DOS=HIGH FILES=30
BUFFERS=15 SHELL=A:\COMMAND.COM /e:1024 /p
make a autoexec.bat bat for the same drive that looks like this: @echo off SET
COMSPEC = A:\COMMAND.COM /e:512 /p SET BLASTER=A240 I7 D1 T2
mouse ( what ever your mouse driver is and make sure you path it at it's
location.) This BTW is using Qemm 5.1 and MS Dos 5.0 This is a simple boot disk
just to see if you can run Animator Pro at all on your system. This is same
setup I use if I want to run it under plan Dos. You may consider (noems after
"ST:M" option, but I normally don't need it.
If you are able to get it work using the boot disk, now we can try getting to
work in a Dos session under OS/2. Make sure you exit the Animator in the
default display 320X200 mode. If using OS/ 2.1 follow these steps running OS/2
at the WorkPlace Shell. 1. Go to the Dos Full Screen object right click to
bring up the setting and select settings. 2. At setting menu select session. 3.
You will see the Dos setting. Click on Dos setting and that should bring up the
setting menu. 4. Make changes to the following:
Value: DOS_FILES
30 DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT 8 ( let's keep it simple and
try it with eight for now) EMS_HIGH_OS_MAP_REGION 0 EMS_LOW_OS_MAP_
REGION 0 or low ( you don't need ems of any kind for
configuration.) EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT 160 HW_ROM_TO_RAM
on HW_TIMER on XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT 8000
( This is the amount of memory your going to use for now which matches the DPMI
setting, earlier.)
The rest of the setting leave at default. Now start the Dos full session,
change dir c:\Ani and type ani and see what happens. If it works you can change
the IDLE_SENSITIVITY to get faster proformances but 75 should work just fine.
Providing that it is up and running, you can try different things ,increasing
memory, changes resolution etc. Find out what unenabling you from running it
before.
Your main config for OS/2 ,if at the default level, should not have any
problems with running Animator Pro. It is in the Dos setting for that session,
where Animator Pro is running in, makes a difference. Try this and see if this
work for you.
Bob Running Golden Commpass and OS/2 2.1
Robert,
HA! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you. It works just GREAT!
How does one figure out all that stuff. Well, I guess I've only been running
OS/2 for about a month and half. Practice, practice.
My hair is starting to grow back!
What do you think of the HPFS. Should I make the transtion? I've got almost a
gig of space. (4 IDE'S). I suppose I could partition part of my hard drive for
Boot manager, What do you think?
Another ?. The DPMI is that like the RAM in your system, can you trick OS/2
into more RAM than you physically got? I get confused %-) sometimes, when it
comes to memory.
Again, Thanks
P.S. What's the Golden Commpass?
Greg: GREAT! I glad to hear that it works for you. Just remember that
for every 1000 of XMS_ Memory_LIMIT you must set your
DPMI_Memory_LIMIT BY 1. In other words. if you set the
XMS_Memory_Limit to 14000 than the DPMI_Memory_Limit_ should be set
at 14.
As far as HPFS, I highly recommend it if your going to use the hard
drive for a lot of simple Animation and titling. HPFS not only is it
best known for it's long file name ability but also it's defagmenting
capability. This is one advantage you will have in using HPFS while
rendering your frames. The flc files will be defrag when laid in on
the drive. When using HPFS I notices an increase in throughput which
you get faster load ups and animation runs off the drive ,depending
apon detail images or type of drive your using. However, you will be
limited to the 8.3 character file name since Animator Pro is a Dos
base app. So if your thinking on using HPFS, try it. You have the
resources to run it and plenty of room. If you don't like it, you can
always go back to using fat. You must remember that running under
straight Dos can only access fat partitions. HPFS in not accessible
by running under Dos only. However the Dos session or a Dos boot
image all under OS/2 can access both FAT and HPFS partition. So in
other words run Animator Pro under the Dos session in OS/2 will have
access to both drives ,with the different partition, where running
Animator Pro under plain Dos with a memory manager only get you
access to one
I have my Animator Pro in the D drive when in a Fat partition so that
both OS/2 Dos session and regular Dos and run Animator Pro. Under
OS/2 Dos session, if I want improve proformace on files that I create
on the hard drives, I set my temp files for the C: drive HPFS. So
that that the Animator uses HPFS even though it resides in the D:
using fat. I just remember to move everything to D: FAT partition if
I going to use regular Dos. But you don't have to go back and forth
this way. I only do this if I am going to use all of the memory loaded
in my system because I only have 16 meg memory. If I had 32 meg like
you have, the trip back to using regular Dos will be like a trip to
the museum for me; which the trip is made very seldom for this
purpose.
Don't get me wrong , I enjoy museum, I just make going there part of
my daily routine.
As for DPMI memory, I will have to refer you to the Master help will
give you an explanation of the DPMI memory settings and the proper
definition. For what I understand, to make it a little simpler, it
is a Dos extender support specification that was put in the Dos
session and it give you the ability to set the amount of memory a
program uses that are built using the supported Dos entender
implementation. Animator Pro uses a Dos entender in its program to
gain access to larger amounts of memory that Dos alone will not allow.
The DPMI setting is just an option allocate the extended memory for
programs that require this support. A program can have access to more
memory that is loaded on your system because OS/2 will virtualize
memory to the hard disk when you run out of room. So the support is
there. I hope I have answer most of your question to the best of
knowledge but i'm glad I was able to help out in getting you going.
BTW Golden CommPass is a OS/2 navigation software to use with
Compuserve. It is 32 bit multitreaded apps. that can automated you
online session. One of things it allows me to do is to selected the
topic I want to read off line pre mark message threads for the
previous session. Once done I select to continue session and it will
down load all of the messages I selected including premarks messages
This way I can continue to follow the threads of interested without
loosing track of which topic that was previous selected. Also, since
it is multitreaded, I can read forum messages from one area already
download while the other still in the download process. When it is
done it log off all one it's own. The are number of other feature
which you find in the Golden Commpass Forum. GO GCP to find out more
and the is a Demo disk available.
Well that all I have for now. Best of luck Bob (Using Golden CommPass
and OS/2)
Hi Bob!
I see you've become an old pro at this OS/2 stuff. Just started lurking here
while I try to find some general information on rendering.
Are you doing any 3D rendering or illustrating, or just using
Animator Pro? I'm trying to decide what programs I should update or
change now that I'm getting basc into this for a while. I'm using an
older version of Topas and RIO and they both run great under 2.x.
Richard (Fellow GCP user…great CIS navigator.)
Hi Rich! Nice hearing from you! Yes Rich I have been able to utilize OS/2
abilities in so many different ways. I have been able to find ways to tweak
OS/2 to make it just a little more snappier environment and just having alot of
fun.
You probably saw my earlier notes on the setting to make the Animator Pro run.
There are so many different ways you can run it that it's mind boggleing. The
best thing is that you don't have to reboot to try different settings.
What I like best is the way I can have a Targa drive loading in one single Dos
session, then run Animator Pro, do some animating of all the effects that I
want. If I have a number of flc flies that needs to be join together to become
one big huge file, that's when I selected the Targa screen from the Animator
resolution setting and the Animator Pro will display from my separate monitor
from the Targa card. There I will render the all the join flc file together.
While rendering, I can control esc and bring to Workplace shell back on the
main VGA display to do something like run Prodigy,edit a scrip file for the
animating of events etc. , while the background rendering takes place. Maybe
even do a image conversion with the convert utility program while waiting to
the render to finish. There nothing like being able to get two or things done
at once.
Most of the rendering I done, have been with Animator Pro. However I have
experimented with POV 2.0 retracing for 3D rendering. I am planning to get 3D
Studio to have full 3D rendering and Animating capability for the things that I
want to do later on this year. Integrate well with Animator Pro, DPMI
compliment and Autodesk throws everything but the kitchen sink in there with a
CD rom disk full many textures images and other goodies. I saw Topas at NCGA
show here a few years ago. I was really impress with the wine bottle demo they
gave, really nice. This is a powerful package with modeling feature that was
pretty easy to use.
I know this kind of off the topic but I have switch to Golden Commpass and i'll
tell you this program is great. I really flies and it has save me on online
charges.
So, are you considering on switching your 3D packages? I thought, with the
packages you have which are pretty nice, you would have upgraded them.But it's
nice to try something different too since there are more package that are
coming from newer player, who are joining the PC arena.
Well i'm glad you stop by. I'm just here offering a helping hand. Take care Bob
(Using Goden Commpass and OS/2 2.1)
Bob,
Thanks for the info! Sounds like you've been very busy.
I've been away from rendering for awhile due to other office duties, but now
I'm ready to step back into it. (Cleaning shoe)
I couldn't live without OS/2 multitasking. You get so use to it and
really don't know how hooked you are until you're stuck with a DOS or
DOS+Win machine (my worst mightmare <g>).
Right now I'm looking at just upgrading my current programs because
that's the most economical route. One day I hope to get 3DS, but for
now, I'll just have to wait for the price to drop. Upgrading Topas
will cost only about $150 compared to switching to 3DS for around
$500 (last time I checked). maybe later this year. I'm checking into
the RIO upgrade price..I've really enjoy that program.
Take care and I'll see you around here. Are you off of *P now?
Richard
I'd like to learn more about OS2's multitasking in terms of sound syncing.
Would OS2 enable me to to animate directly to music or dialogue by
simultaneously running audio software in a small pop-up window in Animator Pro.
If so, would the smooth motion be maintained?
Al That is a very interesting concept, however I have never tried it where I
can really give you a concrete answer as to how well the results would be. OS/2
comes with the Multimedia Presentation Manager that has sound support that can
record and play back through your sound card. You may want to check with IBM
ask about the Ultimedia tools one of the Ultimedia forums or give them a call.
Tell them what you want to do and ask if and of there product tools are
compatible to the FLC file format. That can be one area to consider.
Bob Using Golden Commpass and OS2 2.1
I think I'll look into this some more. Sound syncing has always been a
problem. In the meantime, I'd like to hear from anyone with experience
combining OS/2, Ani Pro and audio syncing. Is what I described earlier
possible? The ability to animate to audio and to choreograph images precisely
to a beat would open up fascinating possibilities.
Al The possibility is definitely there is why many are taking a second
look at OS/2. It is just a matter of finding the right tools to
implement what you want done that can utilize the feature in OS/2.
What you may want do is see if you can find a OS/2 utility that can
play back Animator files an than run the sound from MMMPM sound
support which is a and OS/2 I believe it can be done. OS/2 is capable
of playing back full motion video with full sound synchronization at
near 30 fps without specialize hardware. I have read on various forums
when this was demo with two video display running at the same time.
NOT TV but image off the hard drive. I have seen a demo of movies run
on a IBM model 95 ant the 1992 Comdex with excellent quality. What's
needed is a native multitreaded FLC file playback app with sound
support. I think that would do the trick.
I may try somthing just to see for myself what can be done with what
is avalible. Keep me post if you learn anything thing new this. This
is very interesting.
Bob Using Golden Commpass and OS/2.