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#The Screamer

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#61379From: MICHAEL SMITHAug 5, 1993 7:27 PM
Thanks Alot!! for taking the time to type this MUCH APPRECIATED (I really mean it !) Mike
#61386From: tom spyrisonAug 5, 1993 8:48 PM
Gee…. I don't suppose there is any chance that the Amiga could be run from this thing is there? Would do wonders for other programs. 😉 Tom Spyrison Toast Inside
#61423From: Jim BroekAug 6, 1993 4:27 PM
My guess is that the screamer will kill the toaster. There will undoubtably be Mac and MS-Dos platform applications that will allow the Screamer to be their rendering engine. Not to mention any application run on a mainframe or supercomputer now. Let's face it — to be able to buy a machine which runs rings aroung the Cray I for under 10 K? We are begining to witness another paradigm shift here. I don't think that NewTek alone is pulling this off. Someone else is involved here such as …SGI or NEC or but probably not…CBM. A lot of people are going to get crunched by this product and a select few will rise to an even higher plateau than we've seen yet. Later, Jim
#61435From: Vance SchowalterAug 6, 1993 5:47 PM
I must disagree. From all of the details I could see, only LightWave will be utilizing the Screamer. Also, the screamer requires the Toaster and A4000 to operate with LightWave. However, ultimately, I'd sooner spend my time utilizing what is and not bother speculating on what might possibly happen. With the capability of the A4000 itself, adapting the Screamer to either Mac or PC would be several steps backwards in functionality. Also, CBM was rumoured to be working on a RISC-based Amiga for some time now. The rumour has yet to be absolutely quashed. -= Vance =- Image Master using Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster!
#61640From: Jim BroekAug 9, 1993 4:20 PM
Vance, If this incredible piece of hardware is available, There will undoubtably be LOADS of developers who want to utilize SuperComputer processing power for their Hardware & software. It would be in NewTek's best interest to allow the Screamer to be used by ALL platforms. The Screamer, if it uses the Toaster and Amiga as a kind of 'Dongle' (which it would be) would be vastly under-utilizing its potential. If it is meerly a rendering engine, connected to the Toaster Workstation by some type of network connection accepting data to be processed, wouldn't other platforms be able to supply that same raw data? What would save the Amiga market here would be a more integrated relationship whereby the Screamer acts as a Toaster 'Accelerator' and inherently relies on the Amiga and/or Toaster in much the same way the Toaster is tied into the Amiga Hardware. Things are really starting to get interesting. Later, Jim
#61643From: Vance SchowalterAug 9, 1993 5:06 PM
Hi, Jim! I think NewTek will work it this way: Continue to develop the capabilities of the Screamer within the Amiga/Toaster/Toasterlink(Mac) sphere, and leave it to 3rd parties to tap into the Screamer the same way that they left FrameStore image manipulation to be figured out by 3rd parties. Ultimately, it would be sheer folly for any of us to hazard a guess at what the top secret NewTek has in store for the users. To better understand what the heads of NewTek feel about the future of NewTek and computers in general, you should read the August issue of Video Toaster User. It has an interview with Jim Jenison and Paul Montgomery. Even by releasing what they do of the Screamer, NewTek would have to see that the market would sustain the product before even considering expanding it to other platforms. Just saying it would do well doesn't make it so. The Screamer is VERY promising, but like anything, it's also a gamble. Remember, there was a multi-processor card for the Amiga 2000 a few years ago and Atari had a multi-processor machine. Both died quickly. I agree, however, that things are definitely starting to get interesting! -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster!
#61664From: John GrossAug 9, 1993 11:28 PM
Do you think that NewTek would come out with a product that would kill the Toaster?! I think not… JG
#61701From: Peter GreciAug 10, 1993 5:18 PM
Howdy John, Someone on Amiga_Video Fidonet Echo claiming to be Mark Randall( tho I saw no reason not to believe he is who he says he is) of Newtek mentioned that MULTIPLE SCREAMERS can be connected to a Single Toaster equipped machine to REALLY make things interesting Speed Wise. Any idea if this is true? Thanx, Having you substaniate this info would be Lovely. thanx John.
#61733From: John GrossAug 10, 1993 10:18 PM
I can't really talk about details yet, but I don't think you'll have any complaints about any speed issues.
#61805From: Peter GreciAug 11, 1993 4:08 PM
Okey Dokey, be sure to update us when you can Chat about the SCREAMER. BTW if you have a Chance I HIGHLY Recommend Syndesis 3D ROM
#62013From: Anthony RamirezAug 14, 1993 1:01 PM
>I can't really talk about details yet, but I don't think you'll have any >complaints about any speed issues. Could you give us some info that was given out at the NewTek party? Some of us couldn't make it. What exactly are the video ins and outs for? If this is `just' a accelerator for LW then I don't see the need for this. Could this be for another feature outside of LW?
#62024From: John GrossAug 14, 1993 3:05 PM
Well, Not a lot of info was given out at the NewTek party. There is going to be an article about the Screamer in the first issue of the LightWave NewsLetter, due out about the end August/beg September. It will go out with each VTU subscription for the first time (must subscribe to it after that…).
#61429From: Peter GreciAug 6, 1993 4:43 PM
Yea I'd love to have the SCREAMER also be able to render my Morphs from Imagemaster too. Hope your listening NewTek.
#61446From: Shawn RandolphAug 6, 1993 8:13 PM
Amiga run from it??? Why yes, its just an Amiga 6000 with a SCREAMER sticker on it. And Oooooo wait until you see the new Kinki, oops I mean Kiki effects (do yah think she has a double stand in for those <g>). Shawn Randolph The Paw in Silent Paw Productions
#61392From: Geary N. HughesAug 5, 1993 9:47 PM
Mike: You're welcome, Mike, I guess… I'm just floating around out here like you, in a dream state. I sure hope you get what you want from TS. It does sound like a smoke'n machine. Geary