CompuServe Thread

VXL30 trouble

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#61678From: Garry NelsonAug 10, 1993 1:55 AM
Help! I bought a VXL-30 for my old (rev 5) A500, and the guru visits me every 20 min, then 10, then 5, then I have to turn it off for a while. I followed the enclosed directions, culminating in me disconecting all periferal devices (to include my A501 card). Still having the same problem! I thought I might have an overheating problem, so I tried operating with the top cover off – the system still locked up, the guru still came. My paranioa even drove me so far as to re-install my 1.3 rom (I am operating with WB1.3 & KS2.0) Please help me before I go insane. Thanx, Garry Nelson
#61743From: Jonathan SchmidtAug 10, 1993 11:30 PM
Are you using the original 500 power supply? You may not be getting enough juice. If you have access to a Bigfoot, try that… JDSoftware Jonathan Schmidt – On AutoPilot from CompuServe Land
#61757From: Garry NelsonAug 11, 1993 1:07 AM
OK, will try…. Thanx for the feedback.
#61764From: Karl F. KugelAug 11, 1993 1:41 AM
You might check if the power supply voltages are still being maintained with the greater load- the CBM power supply is adjustable. (It is usually the +5 V. if I remember correctly.) // -Karl \X/ Amiga and Autopilot: The *only* way to fly!
#62065From: Garry NelsonAug 15, 1993 3:39 AM
How do I adjust the power supply? thanx, Garry ps. I shouldn't be overloading it – I disconnected all power-dependent devices.
#62202From: Karl F. KugelAug 17, 1993 5:21 AM
Just the turbo board alone (with memory) can cause a voltage drop that's enough to cause problems. Do you have a digital VOM? The easiest way is to measure the +5 V on the turbo board (I am assuming that the VXL-30 IS a turbo board). The board should have test pads or pins to check this, but presummably Microbotics can advise you on where they are. The CBM power supply has a pot that allows the voltage level to be adjusted. S plastic screwdriver is nice here. Since you have to do this with (1) the computer open, (2) the power supply case off, and (3) the power on, it is easy to cause some fairly exciting problems. Arcs, clouds of smoke, hair standing on end, things like that. I suggest that you try the computer with a different power supply first and see what happens. If it IS related to the power available, THEN see if you can adjust the original power supply enough to compensate. You might want to see if you can find a friendly tech to do this. You WILL want to talk to Microbotics first.
#62287From: Garry NelsonAug 17, 1993 11:10 PM
Karl – Not only do I not know any frinedly techs on this island (Oahu), but now I have "hair-raising" advice to ponder… seriously, barring sloppy hand-eye coordination, is there a possibility of overload in the wrong places if I adjust the power supply myself? Of course, this is all hypothetical – I'm either going to get a Bigfoot or a 2000 next month. (Seems the easiest solution to this problem.) Thanx for the info. – Garry
#62288From: Garry NelsonAug 17, 1993 11:15 PM
ps. Not only do I not have a VOM (Voltage meter, right?), I'm afraid if I borrow one from a friend and screw up the board, not only will I not get a refund (and have to deal with the subsequent verbal abuse from my bitchy wife). but the guy at Microbiotics who's been helping me will crucify me! Anyway, where would I hook up the VOM leads? -Garry
#62289From: everett nanceAug 17, 1993 11:35 PM
Garry- Sorry to hear about the bitchy wife. Isn't it nice that computers can be fixed and/or sold. Flying AutoPilot——-Everett—-Portland, Oregon
#62399From: Garry NelsonAug 19, 1993 2:01 AM
Everett – Yes! and you sound like a salesman:) -Garry
#62294From: Karl F. KugelAug 18, 1993 12:10 AM
There should be some pads or pins on the turbo board where the power comes in. With luck, they are marked. The real danger is that you will be fooling around with metal objects in a live computer, so a slip could be bad for you both. // -Karl \X/ Amiga and Autopilot: The *only* way to fly!
#62400From: Garry NelsonAug 19, 1993 2:02 AM
I think the cheapest way to fix this problem is to get an A2000. -Garry
#62403From: Karl F. KugelAug 19, 1993 3:16 AM
I can't deny that they are really cheap right now. I have two, and I loooove them. // -Karl \X/ Amiga and Autopilot: The *only* way to fly!
#62487From: Garry NelsonAug 19, 1993 11:32 PM
I'm wondering… would it make more sense to buy an A4000/030 and start over, buy an A2000 and get stuff a lot cheaper? (Thoughts such as these make my wife groan:) What do you think? -Garry
#62496From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsAug 20, 1993 3:47 AM
Depends on your budget. A 2000 is still a very useful machine. If money were no object, I'd buy a 4000 (but not a 4000/30: too slow for the money). –Redmond
#62560From: Garry NelsonAug 21, 1993 12:10 AM
Well… I wish I could convince my wife to let me have the dough for the 040 version. I think I can squeeze her for the 030. You'd really take an A2000 over an A4000/030? I'm looking a couple of years down the road here… Say, any word from the techs yet? Until I can convince the ol' lady to give up the moola, I'm still stuck with a 20 minute computer and pipe dreams:)
#62662From: Karl F. KugelAug 23, 1993 2:28 AM
Well, *I* would get the '030, given the money. A nice machine, and it sure won't seem slow after even an accelerated 500. You just can't go nuts with a 256 color workbench. It ought to have a lot longer lifespan than the 2000s, which are out of production. And that Zorro III buss is nice. The 2000s I have are pretty good machines, but you keep reading about the features of your software that are only enabled with AGA. It would be nice to HAVE those features rather than just drooling over them. // -Karl \X/ Amiga and Autopilot: The *only* way to fly!
#61808From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsAug 11, 1993 4:12 PM
Garry: give me the serial number of your VXL; tell me what else is on your system (particularly external floppies). Are you running your VXL chips at their rated speed (not overclocking)? Do you have wide RAM on your VXL? We'll get you running once we diagnose what's really happening. Regards, –Redmond [MicroBotics]
#62068From: Garry NelsonAug 15, 1993 3:51 AM
Redmond: SN# v-315795-R200, without FPU, FPU clock, or 32 wide RAM. I have disconnected the external floppy and tried operating without the modem and A590 hooked up, same result in all configurations. I haven't messed with the clock on the board or my motherboard. I've also tried switching my 1.3 and 2.0 ROMs, again to no avail. There are only 2 shops here in Hawaii that sell Amiga stuff, and they don't have the Bigfoot PS – looks like I'll have to mail order. -Garry ps – haven't received my Amiga World yet – how much are the 8 meg 32 bit RAM boards going for?
#62114From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsAug 15, 1993 10:44 PM
I noticed you said you "switched" ROMs. Do you have some sort of ROM tower installed? Don't splurge on that power supply yet; let's see if we can diagnose what is actually happening. Describe in detail, starting from scratch, what problem you see; when you see it; and if you get a guru, exactly what guru are you getting. You might want to put it all in a mail message to me and I'll pass it on to the techs and see what they say. –Redmond