#A2386
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Hello All.
I've been playing around with my new A2386 and have run into
a couple problems.
The install seems to work ok however my system crashes upon
reboot. I solved that by removing enforcer and setting
cpu to nodatacache. (I just downloaded the new enforcer and will
try that out).
1. OK now the real problem. It seems that the
janus handler does not load, when trying to load amouse
I get an error that the "Amiga could not load MouseServ – AMOUSE not
installed." I did double click on the mouseserve icon and did it again
a requester pops up to inform me that "Amouse is already active".
2. Next when trying to load jlink I get an error "Janus handler not
loaded".
Now near as I can tell the version of janus I have is 36.83, and now
that I look at it I do not see the janus revs listed in the
dos window.
3. while trying to install windoze the setup program stops at the
beginning of the second disk. I have verified that the file it is
looking for is indeed there.
About my A2386 system.
I have a 3.5" HD floppy and a 5.25" floppy. These are real clone drives.
I also have a 50 mb hard disk a la st506. And the orginal 1 mb ram.
By the way anyone know if I can use SC-ZIPS instead of the Page Mode?
(Realizing I forfit the Page Mode Capability).
Any help would be greatly appreciated. (Now if someone would only make
a new Zorro backplane toss out the video slots and give me another
pc slot)
Thanks
James via AutoPilot
With Motorola Inside and Intel Outside
The Janus handler always loads with Binddrivers. If the Janus
library isn't loaded when Binddrivers is run, then you have a problem
which should be solved by running Enforcer QUIET or CPU nodatacache.
However, if you have more than about 7 meg of 16 bit RAM in the Amiga
autoconfig space, the BB won't work. I don't know if that't the case
in your setup. If you have an older accelerator which doesn't load
it's 32 bit RAM above the autoconfig space, and you have additional
16 bit RAM, you may have too much memory and the BB won't work. You
also could have these problems if the Janus memory segment isn't set
correctly. Open PCPrefs and be sure it's set to D000.
As for Windoze. It won't work unless you have at least 2 meg
of RAM on the BB, and even then it's basically useless. Windows
needs a minimum of 4 meg for any useful work and 8 meg is much
better. It probably stops because you don't have sufficient RAM.
Ok Thanks
James via AutoPilot
With Motorola Inside and Intel Outside
Steven,
-> The Janus handler always loads with Binddrivers.
I've often seen this said but it just ain't so with the 2500 I have.
Nothing happens till I click PC Mono or PC Color. Just FYI.
Malcolm
Malcolm,
BindDrivers "activates" the interface and loads the library
(janus.library) PCMono or PCColor open a window to the interface. You can not
run PCMono or PCColor without first doing a binddrivers.
In fact if you'll notice, the PCside holds off a reboot until you run
the binddrivers command. This is exactly why the PCside can boot off an Amiga
side HD…the PC doesn't get to the stage of looking for an HD until after the
binddrivers occurs…which means that AmigaDOS is up and running…which is, of
course, necessary to access and Amiga side HD.
Don
Don,
Binddrivers is the 22nd command in the s-s. When the thing finishes
booting, janus.library is NOT in memory and the PC is not even remotely
awake. When I dbl-clk PC Mono, the window opens and I see the BIOS message
and RAM test. With a disk in the drive it'll boot. I once used MakeAB but
didn't know what it took to use it. When I run JLINK, I get Amiga Service
not available.
Malcolm
Malcolm,
Let's put it this way…try clicking on the PCMono ICON before you run
binddrivers <grin>.
Again…it seems a fairly common problem with some of the older
machines that you have to do a 2nd binddrivers and pcreset before the amiga
services are available.
Don
Oh, OK. That's different.
I did another binddrivers and PCHard. Still no Amiga services. <sigh>
Malcolm
Malcolm,
Humm…'PCHard'…that's part of the _old_ Janus software, the new
version is called 'PCReset'. You may have an incomplete install of the new
software.
Also, my scriptfile that does the reset says:
PCReset
BindDrivers
in that order. It can not be run from the startup-sequence, I don't
know why…it just doesn't work there…but works fine from a CLI after the
startup-sequence.
Don
Don,
Yes, I have an incomplete install of the new software – as in… none of
it! This is old with a capital O. I think I'm probably gonna give it back
anyway.
Malcolm
PCHard???
Malcolm, it sounds like you have your Janus's mixed up. PCHard came with
the older version of Janus (2088 or 20286). The A2386 comes with PCReset.
Maybe you better wipe out your PC drawer and reinstall from the proper
Janus disk.
73, Kelly
James: Re your mouse problem: You aren't supposed to touch the MOUSESERV
program on the Amiga side. Instead, you run the AMOUSE.EXE program which
should be available on the PC side of your system (if you put it there).
When AMOUSE executes it will automatically tell the Janus handler to go do
its thing with MOUSESERV. Do NOT run MOUSESERV on the Amiga side (or
anything else in that drawer, for that matter)! This is covered in the
manual.
Once AMOUSE is run, you must hit Left-Amiga-P to switch the mouse to the
PC side, and again to switch it back to Amiga use.
— Ron Legro from Milwaukee via AUTOPILOT
(The only way to fly)
Well if I don't double click on the icon in my services drawer
they don't run. Maybe I have something else wrong.
Thanks anyway
James via AutoPilot
With Motorola Inside and Intel Outside
James,
They must be in SYS:PC/SERVICES, but if they're there…they WILL run
when you startup the appropriate PC side program.
Don
Ok you are right they are located in my pc/services drawer. However
They do not load unless I reboot the A2386.
Thanks
James via AutoPilot
With Motorola Inside and Intel Outside
James,
Having to reboot the BB is not that uncommon. In fact, it's often
necessary to redo the BindDrivers command and use PCReset to get things working
ok.
Don
Ok thanks. I just thought something had to be wrong for me to have to
reboot the 2386.
Thanks again
James via AutoPilot
With Motorola Inside and Intel Outside
Then you've got the wrong versions over on the PC side, or the PC side
Janus executables aren't there at all. From the JANUS subdirectory on the
PC side, run AMOUSE.EXE and leave the services drawer stuff alone.
— Ron Legro from Milwaukee via AUTOPILOT
(The only way to fly)
Thanks
James via AutoPilot
With Motorola Inside and Intel Outside