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#copying groups of keys

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#115820From: Mark CriglerAug 2, 1994 5:09 PM
I frequently need to repeat a large group of keys in the key info box. IE, a morph sequence that needs to be repeated several times, back to back. Isn't there an easier way than copying one key at a time?
#115835From: ARA GREGORIANAug 2, 1994 7:14 PM
thats something that i would like to see too. the option of selecting a group of keys and performing an operation on the selected set. i second you on that wish item. take care ara
#116040From: Mark CriglerAug 3, 1994 11:59 AM
it makes a lot of sense. I'm constantly having to establish repetetive motions, and copying each key over to the next appropriate frame is tedious – and i always lose track about half way through. I was talking to someone at schreiber instruments tech support an i thought they suggested a method of doing that – but maybe i was mistaken.
#116058From: John StetzerAug 3, 1994 1:28 PM
>>copying groups of keys Couldn't you do this with file insert? Not having used file insert it alot, I dunno. John Stetzer JWS
#116129From: ARA GREGORIANAug 3, 1994 6:46 PM
i am sure thee are work arounds like file insert but i dont know of a direct way! i hope they add this option. ara
#116024From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Aug 3, 1994 11:05 AM
No easy way right now. Once people get the new Scripting language in their hands, you can bet someone will code this and put it up on the forum. — James — MAP —
#116039From: Mark CriglerAug 3, 1994 11:59 AM
i thought for sure there was some way of copying groups of keys – I think someone at schreiber instruments told me about it – even if it's only a trick. what is the scripting languag – i haven't heard about it.
#116107From: John K. JordanAug 3, 1994 4:55 PM
Hey Mark, You can easily copy a group of keys using the file insert. One easy way to do this is to save a track file (simply a 3DS file consisting of your object keyframed only over the range of keys you want to copy). Then with the frame counter on the frame you want to copy those keys to, choose Object/Track/File Insert, pick the object, then pick the track file. You might want to experiment a little with a simple object first to understand how it works with the various options. (Also, things can get interesting when you have certain rotation keys, etc.) I just made a ten-key track file and inserted it six times. It took longer to type this than it did to do the keyframing and file inserts. JKJ
#116366From: Mark CriglerAug 4, 1994 5:11 PM
thanks for the help on this, i'll give it a try. it seems like a prime candidate for a wish list, but its probably too late for this. the one problem i've alway had with 3ds is that it behaves so differently than autocad. no o-snaps, copying and editing techniques, etc. you can tell it wasn't written by engineers or autocad users. in and of itself it's fine, but when its being published by autocad, you expect it to behave similarly, and it doesn't. oh well, its still a fine program; but i still wish i had o-snaps!
#116422From: John K. JordanAug 4, 1994 8:16 PM
I second the motion for AutoCad-like, o-snaps (as well as a bunch of other AutoCad-like features, like a simple Distance function in addtion to the silly Tape!) However, I can still work much faster in 3DS than Acad and the 3D interface is much better (IMHO). And since the output of Acad is usually precision and the output of 3DS is usually trickery, I suppose there is some consolation. JKJ (BTW, AutoCAD and 3DS are published by Autodesk, not published by autocad – but you knew that!)
#116431From: Gary K. SimAug 4, 1994 9:43 PM
<<the output of AutoCAD is precision and the output of 3DS is usually trickery>> major belly laugh at my end…gary
#116577From: M. G. BATCHELORAug 5, 1994 1:25 PM
<< I second the motion for AutoCad-like, o-snaps >> I, uh…THIRD it <g>. BILL
#116677From: Phillip L. MillerAug 6, 1994 10:14 AM
R4's Bezier moduele will give you a vertex snap to exisiting vertices (hey, it's at least a start <g>). – Phil
#116690From: M. G. BATCHELORAug 6, 1994 10:38 AM
I'll take it <g>. BILL
#116746From: ARA GREGORIANAug 6, 1994 3:19 PM
and i "fouth" it. ara
#116956From: Richard J. SmithAug 8, 1994 6:04 AM
I am all for it Osnaps in 3ds !!
#116585From: Mark CriglerAug 5, 1994 2:00 PM
Yes, I did know the publisher, autodesk. And you're right about that stupid tape – that's the sorriest excuse for a feature I ever saw! thanks, mark c
#116313From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Aug 4, 1994 2:00 PM
Details on the scripting language can be found in message #114476 or check out the file R4FEAT.TXT. I think you will be excited by what you read!!
#116367From: Mark CriglerAug 4, 1994 5:11 PM
thanks, will do
#116369From: Mark CriglerAug 4, 1994 5:11 PM
thanks, i'll look into it.
#116197From: Zac RymlandAug 4, 1994 2:43 AM
I third you on that wish item. Perhapts with the new scripting capabilities of 3DS4 we will get this. Zac (AZ-TECH) Berkeley
#116368From: Mark CriglerAug 4, 1994 5:11 PM
i'll have to look into it. why are you in berkley, and called az-tech. I'm in arizona…does that make me cal-tech? <G>
#116540From: Zac RymlandAug 5, 1994 11:48 AM
Mark; I think you have to keep looking east-ward for you name. If you are in Arizona then perhapts you should be Mis-TECH. <G> Zac
#116584From: Mark CriglerAug 5, 1994 2:00 PM
Ain't no Mis-tech here, we beat the Lakers, didn't we? – in fact what we didn't beat, we bought!
#117275From: Zac RymlandAug 9, 1994 2:54 PM
Well, if you can't beat-em, buy-em!
#117312From: Mark CriglerAug 9, 1994 6:59 PM
You may get your chance next year. Word has it Barkley wimped out of the rehab program for his back; and my wife, who is a nurse on the hospital floor where Barkleys doctor practices, says……………………
#117519From: Zac RymlandAug 10, 1994 1:11 PM
Mark; >>You may get your chance next year. Word has it Barkley wimped out of the rehab program for his back; and my wife, who is a nurse on the hospital floor where Barkleys doctor practices, says……………………<< Your just going to leave me hanging, aren't you?
#117813From: Mark CriglerAug 11, 1994 3:46 PM
Yup – it's privelaged – and my wife would shoot me if I say anything more. Actually, we don't know here. He's back in Phili and he may be doing some rehab there. But the news media has moved on, and nobody knows.
#116251From: Steven ElliottAug 4, 1994 10:58 AM
Mark, I see that many others have given you good advice on the File Insert trick. Here's another possibility, if the sequence need to repeat all the way through to the end of the animation then: 1) Set up the repeating sequence of keys (e.g., a morph sequence). 2) Click on Key Info and select the object. 3) Click on the appropriate key track and turn on the Repeat button. The sequence will now repeat itself until the end of the animation. Steven
#116748From: ARA GREGORIANAug 6, 1994 3:22 PM
that is very nice! but one minor problem with that is that you really have no control over the number of loops! ara
#117336From: Aleksey PopelyukhinAug 9, 1994 9:05 PM
PMJI Try Multi Slide it's part of the Power Utilities package distributed by Digimation. Multi Slide will give control on the number of loops and ping pong effect and much more. regards, Alex
#117416From: ARA GREGORIANAug 10, 1994 1:58 AM
thanks for the tip. i think that will be my next ipas. ara