#ati pro turbo slow
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I am curious…I just installed a ATI pro turbo 4MB and have noticed
significant slowdown on loading and swithcing between materials editor and main
display…any ideas as to why this is happening.
Am using 16MB 486DX2-66
Jeff
I agree I just upgraded from a 32bit ATI ultra pro to a 64bit ultra pro, and it
is much, much slower switching between screens.
There is a problem with the vibrant drivers… they are working on the problem,
and the fix should be out in about two weeks.
Todd Manus
YEAH, I've been awaiting this fix for a while! No more delays. Hooray,
Vibrant!
Mitch
>There is a problem with the vibrant drivers… they are working on the
>problem, and the fix should be out in about two weeks. >
Where did you get this from Todd? We HAVE been looking at the problem, but I
wasn't aware we announced any 'fix' time for this? I don't think it'll make
1.0.4…
Chuck Walbourn – Vibrant Graphics
Why……you did Chucky, I called and was told by a technican that the fix
would be out in two weeks, but never mind that…..Vibrant claims to get new
drivers periodically out every 8 weeks, so you are due to have drivers released
soon anyway…..
By the way,
I am a registered user of Liquid Speed, and a good customer, I didn't
appreciate the tone of your message….
Todd Manus
>Why……you did Chucky, I called and was told by a technican that the fix
>would be out in two weeks, but never mind that…..Vibrant claims to get new
>drivers periodically out every 8 weeks, so you are due to have drivers
>released soon anyway…..
Yes we are working a release. No, I am not aware that we were planning on
having it fixed and out in two weeks. I said we were TRYING to get something
out, but I do not set the schedule and the priorities change a lot around here.
I was curious as to WHO at Vibrant said the fix would be out in 2 weeks for ATI
Mach 64?
> >By the way, > >I am a registered user of Liquid Speed, and a good customer,
I didn't >appreciate the tone of your message….
I am not sure what you mean by this, but I am sorry if I offended you. My tone
was mostly of shock at this being announced. I am the Engineer in charge of
the driver–although not the drawcode–and I know that my current Beta versions
of 1.0.4 DO NOT include the ATI Mach64 fix. I have been pushing for it for
sometime, but I do not know when it will be released from the draw-code group.
Chuck Walbourn – Vibrant Graphics
Greg,
Have you also experiencing any loss of sync from going from materials to main?
Jeff
hmm.. don't know what you mean by "loss of sync". I'm glad the drivers will be
arriving soon, its REALLY anoying doing test renders!
Greg,
What happens is I have the main display at 1280x1024x256 and the materials at
1024x768x16M when I go from one to tthe other the image is shrunk…
You mention drivers what drivers will be arriving soon?
Jeff P.S. The vibrant drivers for the ATI Pro Turbo only do 1024x768x16M and
less whilst the adapter will do 1152x800x16M it is a matter of 256 pels but I
like taking advantage of the adapter. Besides the sync rate at 16M colors is
different than that of 1280…
It is normal for the monitor to adjust between screens, but it used to do it
quickly.
Greg,
Yes I can understand going from one sync rate to another…it takes about
10-12sec to do this. I have notices also that 3DS takes about 45sec to load
since I started using this adapter…you have similiar problems?
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff,
I also have a ATI Pro w/4Mb(PCI) in a Pentium 90Mhz w/32Mb. The Video Card
takes 44 secs for 3DS to load up and 15-20 sec to display a rendered image.
When I put in a Phantom 32i (ET4000/w32i and PCI) it takes 10 secs for 3DS to
load up and 1sec to display a image after it has been rendered. I'm using the
phantom till the ATI driver situation is corrected.
DAK
David,
If it takes 44s to load on a Pentium-90 and it takes about 45s to load on my
486DX2-66 then it must be the driver…or 3DS…has anyone know why this is so?
I am contemplating on a 66Mhz pentium with PCI…I would get a 90 but DEC is
the only bax that has EISA and PCI.
Why EISA well…the Truvision cards are EISA…no PCI or VESA…albeit I think
the MAtrox illimintor card is a ISA so what to do…I need a frame buffer with
support for output to video.
Jeff
>>why so slow, do anyone know?…
I believe Gus G. mentioned that he surfed the code and found Vibrant was making
hundreds of unneeded calls to the boards VESA BIOS. He has made Vibrant aware
of the problem.
JKJ
>>>why so slow, do anyone know?… > >I believe Gus G. mentioned that he surfed
the code and found Vibrant was >making hundreds of unneeded calls to the boards
VESA BIOS. He has made >Vibrant aware of the problem.
We are researching this and should have a response fairly soon…
Chuck Walbourn – Vibrant Graphics
There are a couple of EISA/PCI P5/90 boxes on the market. There's DEC and ALR,
and also a company called AIR manufactures an EISA/PCI P5/90 motherboard. It
sounds like a really nice one, but is on back order since they just released in
a couple of weeks ago. I havn't heard how it works with 3DS.
John Tissavary (LUNA cie, inc)
John,
AIR EISA…will look into that manufacturer…have been using AMI and Micronics
need to know if it is USA made or import.
Jeff
>> …I would get a 90 but DEC is the only bax that has
>> EISA and PCI.
PMJI, but a retorical question for you.
I am looking in Computer Shopper (Aug. 1994, p.258) where there is a large ad
for Royal Electronics. They have a system that looks very nice from the
description and comes with a) Pentium-90
b) 5-EISA & 3-PCI bus mastering slots
c) 16 MB RAM (192 MB max)
d) ATI mach64 PCI
e) 21" Digital Viewsonic
Royal Electronics has not been mentioned here, as far as I know. This makes
me wonder if there is a problem with the products from them. They have several
systems, some with EISA and some with ISA (with PCI slots also).
Am interested in anyones comments regarding Royal. I am not buying but I
cannot resist looking <g>.
Albert:
I bought my computer about a year ago from Royal. I've had two problems:
1. The SCSI card which came with the system has a connector for SCSC-2 but it
is a configuration for which I have yet to find a cable. It is not the typical
50 pin SCSI-2 but a miniature centronics connector. I've been trying to track
down a cable or a converter to allow me to connect to typical SCSI devices.
Black Box doesn't make one, Redmond doesn't have it in their catalog and nobody
in my local area has a clue. It has been difficult to get a response from
Royal.
2. The UPS boys were warming up for the World Cup by kicking my CPU around like
a soccer ball. I returned the unit and got a prompt return.
Bob
Jeff, I recently upgraded to a pentium 90 /64 mb with the ATI mach64PCI, a and
yes it does take 45 secs – 1min to load and a long time to switch to the
rendering screen. I have gotten in the habit of hitting the space bar as soon
as I render so that by the time the screen switching sync etc.. is taken care
of the image has started rendering(sometimes finished :^) ) However, there is
one good point to be made of the mach 64.. It is blazing fast for screen
redraws and general mesh handling in the editors. BTW -can't wait for the real
time shaded mode in 3ds v4!!!
Greg
>>the screen switching sync etc.. is taken care of the image has started
rendering(sometimes finished :^) )>>
Really? It has been my observation that my system is completly locked (does
nothing) untill the screen mode changes are finished. That is the main reason
it pi**es me off so much. Every time I toggle to my rener screen and v/v I
loose about four seconds.
-Mitch
Greg,
Yes I am also waiting for R4 and the realtime support…as I mentioned in a
previous message…does anyone know why 3DS is doing what it is doing in taking
so long to init?
Regards,
Jeff
It's not 3DS, it's the Vibrant drivers making repetetive calls to the ATI's
bios. Gus Grubba determined this, you may want to ask him for elaboration.
John Tissavary (LUNA cie, inc)
John,
Thanks for the info on Vibrant…
Regards,
Jeff