#Windows NT/OS2 Users
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People are saying that the new release of 3DStudio is going to be Windows NT
based only. Is this true? Does this means, that us, OS/2 users will be forced
to step back in evolution, and ago back to the lousy Windows system?
If so, Thanks Autodesk
Alvaro
Alvaro:
>> People are saying that the new release of 3DStudio is going to be
>> Windows NT based only. Is this true?
That is the information supplied by Autodesk back in February. They will have
more to say when they show a preliminary version of the program at Siggraph
August 8 thru 10th.
>> Does this means, that us, OS/2 users will be forced to step back in
>> evolution, and ago back to the lousy Windows system?
This has been discussed here many times over the last few months. Most people
have come to the realization that 3D Studio is preparing itself for the next
generation of 3D programs, and the general consensus in the industry is that NT
will be the operating system of choice.
Remember that this decision had been made years ago, and the entire program
basically had to be re-written from the ground up for a new operating system.
There is nothing that can be done about the decision at this late date.
Besides, won't it be nice to be able to run NT on many different platforms,
MIPS, Alpha, etc? Autodesk has not announced support for any others yet, but
we can all hope that they will follow quickly.
I agree that OS/2 is a good operating system, but the more I work with NT the
more I like it! It's nothing like Windoze 3.1 if that's what you are worried
about.
Greg Pyros
Greg,
Thanks for the information on this subject. I know that Nt is not like 3.1 or
95, but I still feel bit frustrated because I've just upgraded to Warp Full
Pack, and I have several registered OS/2 programs. Nevertheless, I've bought
today Windows NT, and I'll install it during the weekend. It will take a while
before I get used to it, but I guess I don't have other choice.
Thanks
Best Regards,
Alvaro
Alvaro:
>> …but I still feel bit frustrated because I've just upgraded to Warp
>> Full Pack, and I have several registered OS/2 programs.
Sorry to hear it! That's the reason Autodesk broke their own policy of not
announcing future products or platforms until they are actually shipping. They
had a press release back in February about this so people wouldn't go in the
wrong direction. I understand your frustration!
Greg Pyros
Greg,
All your messages are not reformattable, every paragraph is one long line of
text. Just thought I would let you know.
Regards…………..Rick – Technical Animations
Rick,
OZCIS shows all of Greg's messages as perfectly formatted. What are you using
to try to read them?
Paul
Paul:
>> OZCIS shows…
Have you tried OzWIN yet? If you like OzCIS, you'll love it! Actually wait
about a month until version 1.5 comes out so you won't have to switch as soon
as you get it up and running. Remind me to show it to you when you get here.
Greg Pyros
Paul,
I'm using CompuServe Navigator 1.1. I'm not having a problem with anyone elses
messages on a regular basis. Your message looks just fine, …interesting. I
see from Greg's message, that he is also using OZCIS, I wonder if that has
something to do with why you have no problem with his messages?
Regards………..Rick – Technical Animations
Rick:
>> I see from Greg's message, that he is also using OZCIS…
You see wrong! <bg> I have been using OzWIN for a while now – but it should
format things the same. No one else is having problems that I know of!
Greg Pyros
Gregory,
>> I have been using OzWIN for a while now – but it should format things the
same. No one else is having problems that I know of!
This is a conflict between OzWin and CSNav for the last couple releases; a
leading space in an Ozwin message usually causes CSNav to lose the wordwrapping
when read in CSNav. Developers on both sides are aware of the problem, and it
looks like the problem is in CSNav, as it's the only program that sees this,
even though it's only OzWin messages that trigger it. 'No fix yet.
John
John:
Thanks for the OzWin and CSNav info!
Greg Pyros
Greg,
>> OzWin and CSNav info
To further clarify, what usually causes it is when an OzWin user puts a quote
in a message or reply; the default OzWin method is to put a space before the
>>, such as:
>> This is a quote.
Removing the leading space in front of the >> *usually* solves the problem.
John
Rick:
>> All your messages are not reformattable, every paragraph is one long
>> line of text.
As Paul mentioned, CIS by default will wrap the text for you depending on your
settings, or almost all readers will do this, also.
This is done so that users with different computers will always have formatted
text. What program are you using to download messages?
>> Just thought I would let you know.
Thanks, always appreciated! Now about that mustard stain on your tie from
lunch… :^)
Greg Pyros
Greg,
Your messages are the only ones that I have a problem with on a regular basis
and only for the last couple of weeks. I've been using CompuServe Navigator 1.1
for sometime now, but I have installed it on my new computer.
Do you have any idea if OZCIS will import my address book and filling cabinet.
I've always heard good things about it, but hate to change and loose all my
filling cabinet with messages.
>>Now about that mustard stain on your tie from lunch… :^)<<
That must be something on your glasses<BG>.
Regards………..Rick – Technical Animations
Greg,
>>They had a press release back in February about this so people wouldn't go in
the wrong direction. I understand your frustration!<<
I did noticed a lot of Windows NT/R5 messages in the Forum, but at that time I
didn't knew that both systems were incompatible, and I also was to busy doing
some studies, so, I just ignore that discussion.
I'm slowly recovering from the sock, but I guess a few weeks in my island will
do me some good.
Regards
Alvaro
Oh heck… it's Saturday night, I can look up and see a great nebula right
above my head… I haven't been here much lately so I thought… what the
heck… let me take a stab at it… (yeah Greg, I know… just move it to Take
5 :> )
First, "evolution" doesn't, in itself, imply "better". It simply states a
change of state. It means, in its most rudimentary form, the change from a
simple to a complex state. Atoms combining and forming more and more complex
molecules until amino acids broke apart and started creating politicians (I
have this theory some one was in a hurry and stopped by to take a leak in the
primordial soup so instead of nirvana we have politicians and IBM executives).
I guess I know what I'm talking about though I doubt it's relevant. I was
working (under contract) for IBM back in 87 writing device drivers for OS/2
version 1.0. Since then I thought OS/2 was a great "foundation" for an
operating system. But…. two minor problems. First, Microsoft got away from it
and with it, it took away 140 million customers. Second, and worse of all…
IBM was in charge. That was the death of OS/2. Or at least, the day it got
doomed to a slow and painful death.
The quality of OS/2 today is irrelevant. As a product, it is a runaway winner.
Over 6 million (at last count) copies sold. As an operating system, however, it
counts for less than 3% of the market share (just a fraction of those 6 million
are actually used on a day to day basis).
Do you really think someone will actually consider OS/2? (unless, of course you
get bought by IBM and have no option).
The best thing that could happen for OS/2 is to get given away to some smaller
and aggressive company to market it using 1990's methods and not 1890's…
By the way, on a totally different note (like this above makes any sense any
way), I had a very good friend named Carlos de Nobrega. Your name reminds me of
him and good memories comes back with it.
Um bom dia!
gus… it's late.. I know…
Gus,
I didn't had the benefit to work to one or other of these companies, and
further more I don't really understand much of computers. IWm satisfied with
just Word-processing, Worksheets; communication programs, and 3DS for
archaeological rebuilding.
I would consider myself satisfied if I ever understood why Windows NT programs
are not compatible with OS/2. The answers I receive usually refer to Api
Standarts; 16 bits; 32 bits; and some more strange terms, that are far beyond
my Social Sciences formation.
As for your friend Carlos de Nobrega, he is surely a distant relative of mine.
Give him best regards from a Portuguese cousin.
Um bom dia pr'a ti tambem.
Alvaro Luis Correia de Nobrega
Hi Alvaro,
<<..People are saying that the new release of 3DStudio is going to be Windows
NT based only. Is this true? >>
This is true. More information can be found in…
File Info for 3DNT.TXT
Section: Autodesk 3D Studio Contributor: 74601,3525 Size: 5338
Submitted: 4/11/95 Type: Text Accesses: 836
Title: Autodesk Announces Windows NT Direction
Keys: AUTODESK PRESS RELEASE MULTIMEDIA NT 3DS 3D STUDIO ANIMATION
4/10/95 – Autodesk Announces Windows NT Direction for 3D Studio–Leading
Professional 3D Animation Software to Move to Next
Generation Operating System.
jonas[adesk]
Jonas,
>>More information can be found in…
File Info for 3DNT.TXT <<
Thanks,
Alvaro
>People are saying that the new release of 3DStudio is going to be Windows NT
based only. Is this true?<
>Does this mean, that us, OS/2 users will be forced to step back in
evolution…<
Nobody forced you to take a step back by choosing OS/2. [G]