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#182934From: jeffrey morrisJul 31, 1995 6:03 PM
I bought "3D Studio IPAS Plug-In Reference" book published by New Rider Publishing directly from the publisher. The book has a CD-ROM disk. I thought that the disk contained working versions of IPAS plug-ins but they were demo versions. I don't know how to install and try out the IPAS plug-ins because there was no instructions on installing them. Will someone please help me? Thank you very much for helping me. Jeffrey.
#183019From: Brendon MacaraegAug 1, 1995 9:41 AM
you could start by installing them into the c:\3ds4\process directory. depending on the type of plug-in you access it from one of the four 3ds modules, I'm sure the book explains tha! I hope… is it like a catalog? or does it go into details once you have them installed? -b
#183101From: jeffrey morrisAug 1, 1995 6:26 PM
Dear Brendon, I looked through the CD-ROM disk's directories and files. The IPAS plug-ins in the _DEMOS directory are demo versions. I wanted to try out Civil Detailor and Detailor plug-ins but they don't support AutoCAD R13. The book is like a catalog with details of how the plug-ins work and instructions on using them. Jeffrey.
#183068From: Paul BoydAug 1, 1995 2:57 PM
I recieved my book today and the demos seem to be in the _demos directory. For example: I pulled up the vortex3d dir and it had a print out of complete instructions on installing and operating the ipas routine. I would imagine most of the others are set up the same way, I've only had about 1/2 hour to browse the book and it looks awesome – have fun!!!!! Paul Boyd Phoenix
#183102From: jeffrey morrisAug 1, 1995 6:26 PM
Dear Paul, I looked through the CD-ROM disk's directories and files. The IPAS plug-ins in the _DEMOS directory are demo versions. I wanted to try out Civil Detailor and Detailor plug-ins but they don't support AutoCAD R13. The book is like a catalog with details of how the plug-ins work and instructions on using them. Jeffrey.
#183184From: Paul BoydAug 2, 1995 9:33 AM
IPAS routines are for 3D Studio, I'm not sure what relation they would have with AutoCAD. I am very happy with the book, I just happened to hit a decent contract job when I was starting with 3D Studio about a year ago and I invested in all the Yost IPAS along with some from Digimation – the fact that there are so many available the IPAS book is excellent reference to go along with the actual manuals. There are so many IPAS I have not had a chance to work with yet, this book gives me more detail on exactly what these IPAS can do for me. Thanks Paul Boyd
#183471From: jeffrey morrisAug 3, 1995 6:31 PM
Dear Paul, When I tried to install the Civil Detailor program, it asked me if I have AutoCAD R11 or R12 but not R13. I tried out 3D Paint program but it didn't let me save anything to disk. I looked at and played animations created by the publisher of the program that applies laws of physics to objects. Jeffrey.
#183245From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 2, 1995 1:22 PM
>> I bought "3D Studio IPAS Plug-In Reference" book published by New Rider Publishing directly from the publisher. The book has a CD-ROM disk. I thought that the disk contained working versions of IPAS plug-ins but they were demo versions. I don't know how to install and try out the IPAS plug-ins because there was no instructions on installing them. Will someone please help me? Thank you very much for helping me. Jeffrey. << I'm sorry if we weren't clear about installation of the demo programs. The installations vary from vendor to vendor. The simpler programs are installed by copying the *.?XP (AXP, KXP, PXP, SXP, BXP) files into your process directory. The more complex programs have their own INSTALL.EXE or INSTALL.BAT programs in their individual directories. Most of them come with DOC files that explain the installation. The demo programs are provided as-is from the vendors and NRP has no control over the installation process. Most of the programs are demo versions others are shareware, freeware, or public domain. Many of the demo versions are convertable demos. Let me know if you have any other questions about the book or CDROM. I'll try to help. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#183258From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Aug 2, 1995 2:55 PM
Hello Tim I'm curious where can I get this book ? I've been waiting since April. Is is selling through N.R.P ? Mike White
#183276From: Paul BoydAug 2, 1995 5:48 PM
Call DIGIMATION, they have them in stock 1-800-854-4496. If you ever need something, they almost always have it!!!
#183310From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Aug 2, 1995 9:50 PM
Thanks. Will do. Mike
#183409From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 3, 1995 11:55 AM
>> Hello Tim I'm curious where can I get this book ? I've been waiting since April. Is is selling through N.R.P ? Mike White << It should be in the bookstores by now. 3DStudio IPAS Plug-in Reference by Tim Forcade ISBN 1-56205-431-7 I think you can also order direct from NRP at 800.428.5331 Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#183438From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Aug 3, 1995 1:42 PM
Thanks Tim. Hope to see you at Siggraph. Mike
#183375From: Ernie JacksonAug 3, 1995 8:40 AM
>> Let me know if you have any other questions about the book or CDROM. << I tried to special order the IPAS book through the local Bookstar here in Oceanside, CA but they called me back a few days later saying that I'd have to go somewhere else for it. This is way-odd and definitely a first for me. Got any idea why they wouldn't be able to get it? – Ernie Jackson, 73177,2354 02-Aug-1995 23:58:19 PDT
#183410From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 3, 1995 11:56 AM
>> >> Let me know if you have any other questions about the book or CDROM. << I tried to special order the IPAS book through the local Bookstar here in Oceanside, CA but they called me back a few days later saying that I'd have to go somewhere else for it. This is way-odd and definitely a first for me. Got any idea why they wouldn't be able to get it? – Ernie Jackson, 73177,2354 02-Aug-1995 23:58:19 PDT << I don't know. Maybe they don't want to special order? Maybe they go through a distributor that isn't listing the book yet? Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#183414From: Ralph F. FrantzAug 3, 1995 12:13 PM
>> I tried to special order the IPAS book through the local Bookstar here in >> Oceanside, CA but… Ernie, That is real strange because that is exactly where I got my copy of the book. That was months ago though, and they did order it for me and had it in a couple of days. I guess Digimation is your best bet, or let your fingers do the walking <g> Ralph
#183520From: Ernie JacksonAug 4, 1995 12:25 AM
>> That is real strange because that is exactly where I got my copy of the book. That was months ago though, and they did order it for me and had it in a couple of days. << Weird. I've tried to order twice and they said it was a "no go" both times. I order other books there w/o problems fairly often. Looks like Digimation is the ticket. BTW: Muchos congrats on Virtuosity!!! Can't wait to see it! Any chance we could get you to bring some stills and some inside scoops to a NC 3DS User Group meeting sometime soon? Will probably see you sometime Sunday night. – Ernie Jackson, 73177,2354 03-Aug-1995 22:09:19 PDT
#183472From: jeffrey morrisAug 3, 1995 6:32 PM
Dear Terry, When I tried to install the Civil Detailor program, it asked me if I have AutoCAD R11 or R12 but not R13. I tried out 3D Paint program but it didn't let me save anything to disk. I looked at and played animations created by the publisher of the program that applies laws of physics to objects. Jeffrey.
#184983From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 14, 1995 5:10 PM
>> Dear Terry, When I tried to install the Civil Detailor program, it asked me if I have AutoCAD R11 or R12 but not R13.<< It should work with r13 if you tell if you are using r12. If you cannot get it to work call Schreiber (now called 4DVision). >>I tried out 3D Paint program but it didn't let me save anything to disk. …. Jeffrey. << Yes, many of the programs on the CDROM are demos. Some of them are convertable (meaning that they can be converted to full working copies with a security code). I don't remember what the status is of the Meshpaint demo. There should be a readme with it. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#185500From: jeffrey morrisAug 16, 1995 6:23 PM
Dear Terry, I will try installing the Civil Detailor program and telling it that I have AutoCAD R12 but what if the AutoLISP programs are not compatible with AutoCAD R13? Jeffrey.
#185816From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 18, 1995 9:42 AM
>> Dear Terry, I will try installing the Civil Detailor program and telling it that I have AutoCAD R12 but what if the AutoLISP programs are not compatible with AutoCAD R13? Jeffrey. << Most r12 lisp programs work fine in r13. If these do not then you may need to contact 4DVision (Schreiber) at 800.252.1024. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#185917From: jeffrey morrisAug 18, 1995 6:44 PM
Dear Terry, The files for AutoCAD are *.EXP and *.MNU files and the files for 3D Studio are *.PXP files. I tried to compile the menus but I got an error message saying "ACADR12.LSP not found". AutoCAD R13 has ACADR13.LSP file. I tried the *.PXP files in 3D Studio but no matter how I set the options in the dialog boxes, they create only one type of objects. For example, setting options in the TRANSIT TRACKS dialog box should create different kind of tracks but it created only one kind of track. The dialog boxes ignore the PATH.LFT file that I created and the fences are created in spiral path as if they were coil spring. Jeffrey.
#186272From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 21, 1995 12:58 PM
>> Dear Terry, The files for AutoCAD are *.EXP and *.MNU files and the files for 3D Studio are *.PXP files. I tried to compile the menus but I got an error message saying "ACADR12.LSP not found". AutoCAD R13 has ACADR13.LSP file. I tried the *.PXP files in 3D Studio but no matter how I set the options in the dialog boxes, they create only one type of objects. For example, setting options in the TRANSIT TRACKS dialog box should create different kind of tracks but it created only one kind of track. The dialog boxes ignore the PATH.LFT file that I created and the fences are created in spiral path as if they were coil spring. Jeffrey. << My time with AutoCAD is getting pretty hazy and I don't think that I can really help you with this. If you contact the vendor: 4DVision (formerly Screiber Instruments) they can help you set this up. Their number is: 800.252.1024 Good luck. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#186351From: jeffrey morrisAug 21, 1995 6:17 PM
Dear Terry, I don't have the money to buy Civil Detailor and Detailor programs. Jeffrey.
#186829From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 23, 1995 12:22 PM
>> Dear Terry, I don't have the money to buy Civil Detailor and Detailor programs. Jeffrey. << I can't help you with the money thing, but Schreiber should at least be able to help you install the demo program properly without it costing you. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#183673From: Mitch GatesAug 4, 1995 10:29 PM
While we're on the subject, can you tell me if this book is srictly a "buyers guide" or if it has tips on using popular IPAS routines? If the latter is true, could you give me some insight on how in-depth it is? Thanks Mitch Gates
#184985From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 14, 1995 5:11 PM
>> While we're on the subject, can you tell me if this book is srictly a "buyers guide" or if it has tips on using popular IPAS routines? If the latter is true, could you give me some insight on how in-depth it is? Thanks Mitch Gates << Mitch, It is intended as a reference for selecting an IPAS product. This can be used to help in a product purchase or to determine which product to use from your own tool chest. Each product has an interface/screen shot(s), a list of the controls/parameters that control a plug-in's behavior, and a descriptive review of the product. Where appropriate we provided sample output images that illustrate a range of possible effects and the settings used to produce those effects. We tried to include sample project files and vp files on the CDROM to give you a starting point. Some products could be covered in half a page. Others took 4-5pages. The primary aim was to show you what each plug-in could do and what controls you have. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#185059From: Aleksey PopelyukhinAug 14, 1995 9:34 PM
PMJI, It is a very good book, Mitch, trust me. When Terry was writing it he never used any help from the authors of IPASes: it means he was able to figure out how this 200+ plug-ins work (if he could, you will be able too, espessialy with the manuals) and rendered some pretty screens with with them and in addition explained every single element of their interfaces. Take into account that this book covers practically every IPAS without any BIAS. You will get very useful and complete encyclopaedia of plug-ins, which will trigger your desire to buy couple of dynamics modules, coupled with some amazing fractal SXPs and some unique videopost IXPs. Read it and enjoy, Alex, Video International
#183700From: Bruce . PearsonAug 5, 1995 2:35 AM
I'd like to order the book. Some info, please. Thanx BP
#184984From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 14, 1995 5:10 PM
>> I'd like to order the book. Some info, please. Thanx BP << 3DStudio IPAS Plug-in Reference by Tim Forcade New Riders Publishing ISBN 1-56205-431-7 You can order from Digimation at 504.468.7898 or from NRP at 800.428.5331 Most larger bookstores should have it by now. Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates
#185129From: Samter und PartnerAug 15, 1995 3:44 AM
Hello, I'd like to order the book, too. Is it possible to order it from germany and how long does it take to deliver it? My local bookstores told me that it takes approximataly 6 weeks to get it and I don't like waiting… To order it, can someone give me Digimations or NRP's FAX Number cause calling the USA isn't funny from germany and the 800 number doesn't work. Thanks in advance Samter & Partner
#185164From: Forcade & AssociatesAug 15, 1995 10:33 AM
>> Hello, I'd like to order the book, too. Is it possible to order it from germany and how long does it take to deliver it? My local bookstores told me that it takes approximataly 6 weeks to get it and I don't like waiting… To order it, can someone give me Digimations or NRP's FAX Number cause calling the USA isn't funny from germany and the 800 number doesn't work. Thanks in advance Samter & Partner << Digimation's fax# is 504.468.5494 their voice number is 504.468.7898 NRP's fax is 317.581.4670 their voice number is 317-581-3500 Terry Gilbert Forcade & Associates