CompuServe Thread

#Credit Card Protection

3 messages in this thread
#10236From: Ed BercovitzSep 7, 1988 5:54 PM
John, Within Canada data communications are either provided by Telecomm Canada (Datapac) or by CNCP Telecommunications. Rates for both of these services (as well as telephone service) are regulated by the federal government. However international carries such as Tymnet, CIS or Genie (the only three that I know of that have nodes in Canada) are NOT federally regulated…..I've confirmed this by talking to various government departments. As evidence of this I gave the example of Plink AND Tymnet charges being 40% less than Tymnet charges only when connected to CIS. Compuserve currently charges Canadians accessing CIS via a CIS node 25 cents an hour. Now I'm sure that Compuserve isn't a philanthropic organization so at that rate they are at least covering their costs. Tymnet charges Canadian accessing Plink about $4 per hour…..while for Tymnet access to CIS its $9 per hour. If you don't have a Compuserve node your only alternatives here are either Tymnet or Datapac…..and strangely enough Datapac access costs about $9 an hour also. So the differential in rates is 3600%…..now that sounds very fishy to me <no apersions on Fred> but it certainly seems somebody is making a packet of money <excuse the pun>….not to mention collusion and price fixing.
#10238From: Steve AhlstromSep 7, 1988 6:01 PM
Unfortunately, you don't know what you're talking about. CIS passes along the AT&T surcharge of 30 cents an hour. It is not a CIS generated charge. TymNet is an independent company. Others contract with them. They ae not regulated as to what they charge. You are paying TymNet, not CIS, when you come in via TymNet. CIS charges you what they are charged. TymNet charges to specific companies or networks are contractually based. They are more likely to give a better rate to a company that goes with them exclusively. They aren't likely at all to agree to a lower rate for a company that does not use them exclusively and, in fact, is their #1 competitor in North America.
#10351From: John DraperSep 8, 1988 1:28 AM
The charges are set by Datapac when you access CIS through that service. CIS merely charges back what they are charged. There is an alternative, and that is INet. Strangely enough (not strange at all considering the source of the pricing), you still use datapac when you access CIS through INet, but the charges are about 1/4 of what you pay through Datapac directly to CIS. Check it out, but be prepared to talk to some very dimwitted people who have to be led by the nose just to get them to understand what you want to do.