CompuServe Thread

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#78953From: Marion K. MarksJan 25, 1994 6:16 PM
Once again, Compuserve's nasty habit of evaporating messages before I get a chance to read them strikes. David J. Marks (no relation) quotes someone else, saying only: >>spath.kxp >Bravo! I can't wait. Now if only my money tree grew a little faster. <g> And I have no idea what this is about, other than the obvious: someone (I have no way of knowing who) has proposed or is developing a .KXP called SPATH, that presumably (based on the Subj: name of this thread and also the name SPATH itself) helps smooth out Keyframer paths. I'm very, very interested in this, but have no idea how to find out more. 🙁 On the subject of Tension, Continuity, and Bias: it helps to understand them better if you liken them to the control vectors of a Bezier spline, such as is used in Illustrator, FreeHand, Corel Draw, Canvas, and the like — as well as the 2D Shaper and 3D Lofter modules of 3DS itself. I'll use 3DS to illustrate my point, since we all have it: Tension is related to the length of both vectors. Increasing Tension is the same as selecting "Modify/Vertex/Adjust" in the 2D Shaper, and then pulling both the red and yellow vectors out further (making the arrows longer) WITHOUT holding down the [Alt] key. Decreasing Tension is the same as shortening the arrows, again without holding the [Alt] key. Continuity is related to the ANGLE of the vectors to each other. If Continuity is 25, then the two vectors are in a straight line from each other. Changing continuity is equivilant to doing a Modify/Vertex/Adjust while holding down the [Alt] key so that only the yellow vector moves, and changing its DIRECTION without changing its LENGTH. Moving it one way is equivalent to increasing Continuity past 25 toward 50, while moving it the other way is equivalent to decreasing Continuity past 25 toward 0. Bias is related to the RELATIVE LENGTH of the vectors TO EACH OTHER. If the Bias is 25, then the two vectors are the same length (how long that is is determined by Tension). Increasing Bias is like Modify/Vertex/Adjust, first decreasing both vectors' lengths without changing their angle and without holding the [Alt] key, and then holding down the [Alt] key while increasing the length of the yellow vector to its original length (as it was before shortening it) and then increasing it further by the exact same amount that you shortened it before, without changing its angle. Reducing Bias is like reversing that process, increasing both and then reducing the yellow vector, so that the red has increased at the expense of the yellow.
#79012From: Yost GroupJan 25, 1994 9:52 PM
Marion… I'm working on spath.kxp as one of the routines in our next round of two sets of IPAS3 plug-ins. You'll never have to think about TCB splines in the KF again… it uses bezier-spline function curve editing (a la the Shaper's splines) for drawing function curves over any number of keys/frames for velocity of position and rotation. These two new collections will be available this spring.
#79199From: David J. MarksJan 26, 1994 4:34 PM
>>Once again, Compuserve's nasty habit of evaporating messages before I get a chance to read them strikes. David J. Marks (no relation) quotes someone else, saying only… Regarding my quote, I intended it as a reminder to the addressee what I was commenting on (as I did here). Generally subject lines have no relevance to what is really being discussed (ie. this message) so I do try to put enough info for others to get the idea. Since you singled me out on this particular thread, I was simply saying "Bravo" to the Yost Group on their proposed routine. It didn't at the time seem neccessary to say "Gary, Bravo on your proposed SPATH.KXP which will do blah, blah, blah…". Not long ago, I was part of a long thread with GregP and others about reducing the quoting rather than being more verbose. There were a few people here who had a real problem with long quotes, so we've all tried to quote just enough to get the idea across without requiring lots of repetitive reading. If you do jump into a thread late, just ask for details and someone will gladly fill you in. Forgive me if I've mistaken your tone. You sounded frustrated, so I felt it neccessary to explain.
#79630From: Marion K. MarksJan 28, 1994 6:10 PM
I was frustrated, David, but not with you. I'm frustrated at CIS's habit of automatically deleting messages before I get a chance to read 'em (we're WAY too busy here for us to be able to get messages more than about twice a month!). On GEnie, each message stays put until deleted by the person who posted it, or by a Sysop. There are messages in the RoundTable I'm an Assistant Sysop of which are well over a year old. So long as the Topic doesn't get too full, they'll stay there for another year or more. As noted, people often quote other messages here precisely because of this situation. On GEnie, one need only say, "I really like what you said in your message #379!" and anyone who wants can go back and read #379, even months later.
#79719From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Jan 29, 1994 9:59 AM
Marion, << frustrated at messages evaporating..can only read them once/twice a month >> The message queue is round-robin at about 1 week. Get One of the front-ends to CIS, download to your drive weekly, and read them one/twice a month.