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#BlitzDisk

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#102264From: Lloyd W. Dull IIIJan 8, 1988 10:23 PM
Cheath, I just got my FastFonts/BlitzDisk a couple of days ago. If you are Keeping track of such things, BlitzDisk seems to work fine with the Xebec hard drive. Does the DIRONLY flag effect EVERYTHING? It can't be set to work ONLY on a HARD DRIVE, without also effecting the floppys? It doesn't look like it. I LIKE BlitzDisk! Very useful for about 2K! Keep up the good work. p.s. When should we begin to hear about TxEd's upgrade? Lloyd
#102272From: Charlie HeathJan 8, 1988 11:04 PM
Good to hear BlitzDisk is working with the XEBEC hard drive – let me know of anything suspicious, even if you're not sure of the cause. . I'm thinking about what I could add to BlitzDisk if I decide to spiffy it up a bit. Configuring each drive for clipping limits etc would be useful particularly with combining hard drive and floppy. I'm thinking about a new inexpensive package including BlitzDisk, need to project better results than we got with FastFonts to make it practical though. If we do that I'll probably work on enhancing BlitzDisk for better configuring, and try to make reading directories faster the first time before the blocks all get into the cache. . TxEd Plus upgrade notices should go out end of next week, for sure… I wanted to get the manual off to printer before sending out the notices, and have been delayed by ARP V1.1 release, BlitzDisk and hollidays … but the coast is clear now, a couple more passes through the docs and over the code to make sure we haven't left out any important features should do it. …cheath
#102309From: Steve AhlstromJan 9, 1988 1:59 AM
cheath, Please sell BlitzDisk seperately, or give it away, or whatever. I don't have FastFonts, and don't want FastFonts, but I do want BlitzDisk. But, if I have to buy FastFonts to get it, I'll live without it.
#102352From: Charlie HeathJan 9, 1988 11:56 AM
I'm not going to give it away … that wouldn't be fair to ASDG, since it would wipe out their market. I'm looking into a new product, which'll have to wait until after I get TxEd Plus out, and a few other things C-: …cheath
#102354From: Steve AhlstromJan 9, 1988 11:58 AM
I really wasn't serious about giving it away. It's a needed tool, has enough value to sell, but not enough value for me to have to buy an unwanted product to get it!
#102404From: Charlie HeathJan 9, 1988 3:36 PM
Well, put it this way; for now you can get BlitzDisk for $39.95 plus a letter and a couple weeks delay. . We're likely to make the same kind of offer later for owners of any package we might put together with BlitzDisk. We have a loyal customer base that I know will be interested in any new things we might offer, so I can offer things to them without going to the full expense of a commercial release (IE about $10K and a couple months of my time). And I like giving them an opportunity to have new things first. When you buy a Microsmiths product, you get an opportunity to get new things from us later, for a lower price, and before other Amigans would be able to get the new things. …cheath
#102463From: John FoustJan 9, 1988 8:04 PM
Charlie, you'll never make it in business if you are worried about wiping out competitors. All the most successful Amiga companies believe in marketing warfare. Ah, by the way. I finally wrote that article on software pricing. It walks through an example one-product software company, discusses production costs, distribution costs, and explains why software has a certain minimum price, and why the producer of a $50 product gets $15, and everybody else gets about $30. I have submitted it to INFO magazine, and if it doesn't run there, I might put it in Amigo Times.
#102531From: Charlie HeathJan 10, 1988 1:04 AM
#102686From: John FoustJan 10, 1988 8:32 PM
Did TxEd really wipe out the low-cost editors? I think I've seen a few, but none with any vestige of marketing. I think they try to stick in the kitchen sink, and make it macro-happy. Saying TxEd "wiped out" a market is a bit subjective… maybe *no one* can make money in that price range, on that kind of product.
#102721From: Charlie HeathJan 10, 1988 9:34 PM
#102731From: Marlene ZenkerJan 10, 1988 9:57 PM
Speaking of which, how much will the upgrade to Plus be for us present TxEd owners? Marlene
#102771From: Charlie HeathJan 11, 1988 12:03 AM
Not sure yet – I need to get the quote back on doing the manuals. It will be less than the difference in suggested retail price ( $39.95 ), but I'm not sure how much less yet. …cheath
#102812From: Marlene ZenkerJan 11, 1988 7:13 AM
Thanks Charlie. Marlene
#102329From: Bob RakoskyJan 9, 1988 9:11 AM
Cheath, Just got the BlitzDisk update also, and am impressed so far. Only real complaint is the limitation of two device drivers to hook – I'd like to be able to add a third (hddisk.device, jdisk.device, and trackdisk.device), but had to leave off the third – don't use floppies that much anyway. I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect that BlitzDisk WILL work with saf-T-net despite your warnings to the contrary, as long as I'm not caching trackdisk. Don't know yet if your caching will interfere with my floppy access, though. I'll have to give it a try one of these days and report back. Thanks for the good product and customer support; it's appreciated! ..Bob
#102355From: Charlie HeathJan 9, 1988 12:18 PM
Ah, good to hear that you can use BlitzDisk with jdisk.device … I don't have a BridgeBoard set up so I couldn't try it. . I put in the warning for turning off BlitzDisk when you use special backup programs after we got a report of a GURU running with HardHat – I don't have HardHat so I'm not sure what happened, but probably HardHat does direct to the device driver and makes different assumptions. So just to be safe, I decided to put the warning in for all backup programs, so you'll be 100% sure not to find some obsure interaction problem when you're trying to create an archive backup. …cheath
#102378From: John DraperJan 9, 1988 1:47 PM
With the length of time HardHat takes to do a backup, I think the most likely cause of a GURU is statistical probability. Regards, Larry.
#102408From: Charlie HeathJan 9, 1988 3:43 PM
(grin) Don't know much about HardHat. I'm hoping to be able to use my two HD's to do cross-backups … I've got a CLTD SCSI drive on my A1000, and a 2090 card on my A2000 … so it would seem I should be able to plug the CLTD drive into the 2090 card and copy things back and forth. But I'm not sure if the two formats will work together … I hope so, but there's no real standard for the physical storage specs now. …cheath
#102413From: John DraperJan 9, 1988 3:52 PM
Cheath, That should work just fine on the SCSI drives. Just in case anyone else is thinking about doing this with ST506 devices, I'd better point out a small caveat. When you format a drive, the clock bits, sector headers, etc., are written at a particular rate, and that rate is dependent upon the controller itself. (this is a low level format I refer to). The problem comes when you take that drive and attach it to a different controller. The controller may have slightly different characteristics, especially in terms of clock speed, and you may find it generating errors. Note that this applies to ST506 drives, and to the SCSI <-> ST506 adapter found in SCSI drives. The C Ltd. and 2090 'controllers' are really just host adapters, and have no bearing on the data frequency at the drive itself. Currently I am backing up to another 20 meg drive on the same controller. Makes for nice, fast backups. Regards, Larry.
#102455From: Charlie HeathJan 9, 1988 8:00 PM
I'm thinking of some of the software protoculs that people are adding to drives so they can "automount", by allocating a few sectors in the header to control partitions. Hopefully these drives would still at least be explicitly Mountable with a different partition setup.
#102496From: John DraperJan 9, 1988 10:56 PM
Ahh… That could be a problem Cheath.. thing is, cylinder 0 is a natural for placing drive information, as all controllers can read that area regardless of the total capacity of the drive. Regards, Larry.
#102536From: Charlie HeathJan 10, 1988 1:11 AM
Yup … just hope the driver writers agree to conventions, and keep the sectors physically the same (IE no upside down sectors to use faster movem loops etc)
#102542From: John DraperJan 10, 1988 3:34 AM
Charlie, that would be a problem, and I too would hope that the data was stored where aAmigados put it, and in the same order. Regards, Larry.
#102473From: Bob RakoskyJan 9, 1988 8:19 PM
Charlie, I'm not sure that that approach will work, unless you set up your CLtd SCSI drive with two partitions, leaving the first partition untouched on the 1000. The 2090 driver (hddisk.device) uses the first two cylinders as a separate partition, which is used by the 'prep' command, and which allows the first SCSI drive on the 2090 (and the ST506 drives) to auto-mount with the BindDrivers. I was successful in connecting my old CLtd SCSI drive to the 2090, but I didn't need to keep the old format, so I just re-built the partitions the way that hddisk.device needs them. (My drive is one of the early Rodime drives that CLtd was originally shipping). Of course, IMHO, saf-T-net would provide a much easier solution to the backup process, but then I'm just a bit prejudiced. <grin> ..Bob
#102535From: Charlie HeathJan 10, 1988 1:10 AM
I'm going to need to re-partition the CLTD anyhow, just recently got it back from the shop with a new drive mechanism and formatted as a single partition. I'm not looking forward to the full backup though … probably will have to wait till after TxEd Plus release… then I'll try a format with two tracks reserved. Guess I should PREP it first, then bring it back to the A1000.
#102617From: BILL LEACHJan 10, 1988 5:03 PM
Cheath: Your statement about running prep and then moving the drive to the A1K brings up questions. What are you doing? Are you trying to use the same drive on both machines? I think that may have been the discussion I noted earlier. I am somewhat interested in how that works out. It might be useful for me to be able to run my micropolis on both machines. I presume that you are running prep on the 2K and then partitioning clys 2 -> max on the 1K. Should be interesting, I hope it works. 73, bill
#102647From: Charlie HeathJan 10, 1988 6:07 PM
That's what I want to do – prep the drive on the A2000 controller, then switch back to using it with a manual mountlist on the A1000. Then I can avoid some of the 15-disk mania when doing backups – just swap machines, and keep a backup of each drive on the other drive, at least for the semi-volatile stuff. Hope it works – I should be trying it in the next "day" or so. (I've said that before lately…) …cheath
#102708From: BILL LEACHJan 10, 1988 9:15 PM
Cheath: Yea, I hear ya! Well gud luk and let the rest of us know how it works out. 73, bill P.S. How come I can't find any dealers here in San Diego carring MicoSmiths software?
#102472From: Bob RakoskyJan 9, 1988 8:11 PM
Charlie, Guess I have to retract my previous statement about BlitzDisk working with jdisk.device – turns out I started getting many read/write errors walking a large directory on my jdisk-ed hard disk (first using the ARP file requester, but later repeatable with other directory programs). The problem(s) went away after terminating BlitzDisk. Speculating, I'd suspect that there's some strange timing requirements that are getting thrown off by BlitzDisk's intercepting of the i/o requests. Too bad, cause I was hoping that it would work with that hard drive also. The program works great with a SCSI drive connected to the 2090, though. I did a preliminary test with saf-T-net, backing up a single directory from my (cached) SCSI drive, with caching also enabled for trackdisk.device, and did not encounter any problems. The results are not substantial enough to guarentee that folks won't encounter any problems, but are encouraging. If only I had enough time (and disks) to do full backups/restores and really test out the sucker (I'd need two backups and _hopefully_ one full restore), but I don't have 3 hours of downtime available for that drive right now. Hopefully later this week I'll be able to find the time. ..Bob
#102533From: Charlie HeathJan 10, 1988 1:07 AM
OK, I'll put jdisk on the `user beware' list. Thanks for the report … I'd like to see how jdisk works if I ever get a BridgeBoard. …cheath