CompuServe Thread

AMAXII survives Reboot

22 messages in this thread
#1769From: Christopher TolmieSep 26, 1990 6:40 PM
Well I finally got my AMAX update and am already having troubles with it. I called ReadySoft and they're sending me the bug fix. Apparently there is a problem with machines having both 16bit and 32bit memory residing together. The programmer's debugger window keeps popping open unexpectedly when working with mac applications. When I quit an application or Desk Accessory I receive the dialog box that states that "SuchandSuch program has unexpectedly quit", no kidding I told it to quit! Also, after a warm-boot to restart the Amiga and use it as such, when I restart the AMAX program, press F1 to initialize the Ram-Disk, the icon suddenly appears and just about everything that was put into it during the AMAX session is still there! I've done this several times in a row, in fact if I leave out the boot floppy, start AMAX, press F1, the system boots up and the little mac machine smiles and launches the system. All the INITS appear at the bottom of the screen as they load, and the DAs work, calculator, etc. SuitcaseII, the DA that handles suitcases works, and even PageMaker 4.0 is still intact! Granted, somethings are munged but the majority of it is all there! Has anyone else experienced these kind of problems with AMAX?
#1782From: Leslie ClarkSep 26, 1990 8:41 PM
I've seen the debugger window pop open, but I'm pretty sure that I had that happen occasionally with the previous version of AMAX. I never really thought of reporting it as a problem, since all I have to go is enter a 'g' to resume the program. I am having more serious problems with using a modem under AMAX. Has anyone else had problems with seeing more garbage on the line? This also was the case with the old AMAX but seems to be worse with AMAXII. I'm trying to use CheckFree and haven't been able to connect successfully since I upgraded to AMAXII. (It was "iffy" under AMAX, but it did occassionally work.) Les Clark
#1875From: Christopher TolmieSep 27, 1990 8:16 PM
I never had the debugger window open on the old version (1.0) unless I called for it to open. Now it opens at the least thing I do like open a program menu. Also, it keeps telling me a program quit unexpectedly when I selected to quit the program! chris AT&G
#1997From: Leslie ClarkSep 28, 1990 6:06 PM
I also have it telling me that a program quit unexpectedly… Just wondering, do you have an accelerator board? I have the GVP '030 and I wonder if that is part of my problems. I going to try disabling this weekend and see if I still have the same kinds of problems. I'll let you know. Les Clark
#2286From: Christopher TolmieOct 1, 1990 6:41 PM
Les, I do indeed have a GVP '030. It is 33MHZ w/4MB 32 bit ram. Maybe GVP is the problem. chris AT&G
#1970From: Robert RosenSep 28, 1990 1:08 PM
I've had no problems using my modem (even ZModem downloads) with A-MaxII. I also use Checkfree (on an IBM laptop), and can definately tell you that connecting to Checkfree is more often successful at 1200 baud. 2400 baud usually won't work. Robert Rosen – via Whap!
#1998From: Leslie ClarkSep 28, 1990 6:06 PM
I have actually gotten connected a couple of times now after I downloaded a mac DA that allows me to set the caching options on the 68030. I can't prove that the DA is what did the trick, but I tried about 40 times without any luck before I got it and have connected 2 times in about 8 attempts since then. (Still not a great ratio, but bearable.) BTW, I've been doing all of the CheckFree stuff at 1200. Just out of morbid curiousity, how much trouble do you have connecting with the IBM version? Les Clark
#2530From: Robert RosenOct 4, 1990 11:46 AM
I have very little problem connectng to Checkfree at 1200 baud. Probably 80% of the time I connect on the 1st try. Now I'm using it with Quicken, and it's a very nice package. – via Whap!
#2020From: Mike SchillerSep 28, 1990 9:21 PM
Robert: I call CheckFree all the time at 2400 baud. Their local number is actually the number for Telenet, so perhaps you're not calling a 2400 baud access number. -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#1798From: Jamie RobertsonSep 26, 1990 9:46 PM
Chris, I going to get the Amax II Plus when it becomes available. I take it that the Amax system works really well. I had a Mac SE30, but sold it when I got the 3000. I can't wait to get the card:) Thanks! Jamie
#1901From: David F. CattellSep 27, 1990 9:47 PM
Chris: I am using AmaxII with an Amiga 1000. I have never had the problem of the debug window opening. As for the Amax RAM disk, it is supposed to be recoverable (this is not a bug). If you use your computer as an Amiga, some of the memory may be overwritten. But Amax tries to recover as much as possible when you reboot the mac. (I personally think that this is one of the best features of Amax). A real mac has a ram disk too, but I don't think that it is recoverable. In response to other questions about serial communications (from other users) I don't seem to have any problems. Someone said there is a bug (which ReadySoft has apparently fixed) when both 16 and 32 bit memory types are present. I guess I haven't seen some of these problems because I am using a 1000. Does anyone have any further info on this? -David Cattell
#2037From: Christopher TolmieSep 28, 1990 10:35 PM
David, So where in the brief update manual did you see that the AMAX ram disk was recoverable? It is nice that it does that but I would have liked to have seen it in print somewhere! OK so it ain't a bug, that is a relief, and now that it is suppose to do that I'm glad to see it implemented, it is a real pain having to reload that ram-disk every time. Of course if it wouldn't crash I wouldn't need to do that, but I'm running on an accelerated A2000 via GVP 33mhz '030, with 2 mb of chip ram, 4mb 16bit ram and 4mb 32 bit ram and I guess I need the bug fix version. You haven't had the dialog box that tells you something has unexpectedly quit on you when you in fact have asked that it quit? BTW how do you set up a real mac's ram disk? I guess I really should read its manuals, but then again I don't think I ever opened them [smirk] I was the one (I think) that mentioned that readysoft has a bug fix for the ram problem, and I hope it gets here quicker than the update. chris AT&G
#2114From: David F. CattellSep 29, 1990 4:46 PM
Chris, to access the Mac's RAM disk use Control Panel desk accessory. You can adjust the size of the Mac's ram disk from there. I have never seen the dialog box telling me that a program has quit unexpectedly. I am using an Amiga 1000 so the problem may be related to the memory architecture of the 2000 (or 3000). In any case call ReadySoft (I forget if you said you did) and tell them the problems. They seem to be responsive to user problems. (The AmaxII program disk they sent me was bad. I called and they sent me a new one…I got it 5 days after the call). There is other important info in Amax's main manual, so take a look when you get a chance. (I usually don't read manuals until I need to too 🙂
#2315From: Christopher TolmieOct 1, 1990 8:59 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot that is where the Mac's ram disk is adjusted from, but does it show up as an icon? I did call ReadySoft, and the fix is suppose to be in the mail. chris AT&G
#2637From: David F. CattellOct 5, 1990 9:12 PM
The Mac RAM disk should show up as an icon. Try it and see. ReadySoft has been pretty good about bug and disk fixes. I hope the new version works OK for you.
#2170From: J. Scott ThayerSep 30, 1990 10:49 AM
Chris, I don't want to go looking for my Amax manual but isn't it documented that, not only is the ram disk recoverable, you can BOOT from it? Or doesn't that qualify as recoverable? In any case, I usually move a system folder into the ramdisk and then when you get the little Mac you push F1 and have booted in less than a second. Scott
#2320From: Christopher TolmieOct 1, 1990 9:00 PM
J. Sure I've booted from the ram-disk in AMAX plenty of times, it is just after a warm re-boot and using it as an Amiga, then returning to AMAX that I was surprised to find the AMAX ram-disk, still quite intact! Just to find it all was a surprise to me! chris AT&G
#2353From: J. Scott ThayerOct 1, 1990 11:25 PM
Chris, In short, your right. It IS interesting that the Amax RRD survives an AMIGA reboot. Scott
#2433From: John KominetzOct 2, 1990 10:25 PM
As long as your amiga-side activity is limited, you'll be OK. Beware that the memory isn't write-protected when back on the Amiga-side, so anything you do could potentially corrupt information on the AMAX side. – via Whap!
#1903From: J. Scott ThayerSep 27, 1990 9:52 PM
For what it's worth, I use Prodigy software with Amax with no difficulty whatsoever. No significant line noise. I also have both 16 and 32 bit memory and have never had the debugger open unexpectedly. Scott
#2128From: Ray LewisSep 29, 1990 7:13 PM
Chris: The last part (that the stuff is still in the ram disk) isn't a prolbem. It's just that, when you warm boot, your ram doesn't get erased. So, the AMAX ram disk is still there. It doesn't, to my knowledge (or my experience) mess up anything in Amiga-mode. But, as you have noted, since the Amiga doesn't know that its there, or care, it will overwrite that ram at will. So, when I go back into AMAX after a warm boot to Amiga, I alwasy erase the AMAX ram disk, and reload it. I have the original AMAX. It doesn't seem to have any problems with my system at work — 1 meg 16 bit, 4 megs 32 bit. ?|^] Ray Lewis
#2318From: Christopher TolmieOct 1, 1990 9:00 PM
Ray, This is the first time that I ever had the ram-disk stay resident after going back to running as an Amiga, sure I've booted from the AMAX ram-disk plenty of times, in fact it is faster than the MACIIcx! PageMaker4.0 opens quicker and loads faster than it too! chris AT&G