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#3D Studio Books

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#59318From: Andrew C. ShimbergSep 28, 1993 3:13 PM
I am interested in locating text books or other books that have beed writted on the 3D Studio application. Are there books or periodicals that are available? I appreciate your assistance.
#59330From: Gail ElberSep 28, 1993 4:58 PM
Andrew, Advanstar Communications (publisher of CADalyst magazine) is publishing a book on 3D Studio called "3D Studio Applied." Its author is our contributing editor, Nancy Fulton. The book will be available very soon (we think just shortly after the R3 begins shipping.) This book will have tips, tricks, and tutorials for all levels of 3D Studio users and comes with a CD ROM of images, tutorial files, resourc information, etc. You can place advance orders by calling Advanstar Communications marketing department in Cleveland, OH at 216-826-2802. The price is $39.95. We'll also be taking orders at our booth at Autodesk University. Also, CADalyst magazine itself has a regular column called "3D Corner" wherein we describe methods and tools to improve working with 3D Studio. Sandy Lurins, Editor CADalyst Magazine
#59340From: DE SMET EMMANUELSep 28, 1993 5:56 PM
Hello, How can I subsribe on CADalyst ? I'm living in Belgium, Europe. Phone: 32-9-3699105 FAX: 32-9-366-0473 [D [D
#59342From: Christophe Van OyenSep 28, 1993 6:48 PM
How can I get the book with CD-ROM when its released?? Christophe Van Oyen, Belgium
#59352From: Ian ChristieSep 28, 1993 9:25 PM
Will the book cover 3R specifically? Ian.
#59357From: Mark PennelSep 28, 1993 9:57 PM
There is another book I've located that is coming out November 19th Called "Inside 3D Studio" by J. Jester ISBN#1562050753 it is by Prentice Hall Computer Publishing 1-800-428-5331. I know nothing about it, but I'm waiting to see if it is any good… mark
#59814From: New Riders PublishingOct 1, 1993 4:25 PM
Um… thanks for the plug. Here is some more accurate information. The "Inside 3D Studio" book is being published by New Riders Publishing. NRP is a part of PHCP, though. Also, the author has changed. It is now being written by Steven Elliott and Phillip Miller (and others). You have the correct ISBN# and order telephone number. The publishing date has moved. I'm not sure what it is at this point. It is aimed at intermediate to advanced users, has a 32 page color section (over 1000pgs total), and includes a CD-ROM. Stay tuned for more information…
#59545From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADSep 30, 1993 3:17 AM
You bet it will cover Release 3. All the new features are covered. Its approach is hands on tutorial paired with information on Tips and Traps. The object is to get you as productive as soon as possible by letting you create a bunch of animations. And to help you help you avoid the most costly/ time consuming mistakes. Tutorials range from Interior Design Mechanical Design Accident Reconstruction/Forensics Special Effects Corporate Logos Contructing Architectural Models from Elevations Lighting & Materials workshops Video Post and Output to Video Visual Link DXF into Shaper/Lofter/3D Editor Network Rendering etc. The CD will have contacts for consulting purposed across the US (and in a few other countries like Austrailia and the UK – more if people send me their Resume's between now and monday (OPEN CALLS!)), and contact information for people who write curriculum for a living. Animations and models from Viewpoint and other developers are also included. I'll try to post a chapter overview in the next few days. I designed the book for people who need an introduction on how to use 3D Studio to complete projects – so each project is a start to finish animation, except the lighting and materials laboratories where you experiment with lighting and create materials hands-on so you can really get a handle on what, exactly, does what. The book is also tailored to serve as a reference manual – steps for applying materials or completing any operation can be applied to ANY project. The tutorials are good for classes (in fact many of the tutorials are based on exercises I do in my classes) and for self training. The CD is designed to give people resources, contacts and ideas that they might otherwise not take advantage of. And to show that that 3D Studio can be used for interactive educational media, forensics, architecture . . .
#59610From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 30, 1993 1:37 PM
sounds like an interesting book. Do you actually use 3ds for projects outside of the classroom – as in real-world projects?
#59704From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADOct 1, 1993 12:49 AM
Yeah – I do occasionally do real world projects. Mostly I consult with people who do real world projects. They use me when things get hairy. When I do projects it is in combination with companies who rire me for consulting. I also do training . . ..
#59766From: MARTIN G FOSTEROct 1, 1993 11:44 AM
Nancy, thanks for the info. I think it's important that the author supply a little background info on themselves, so the buyers have an idea of their experience, qualifications, and therefore legitimacy to be an authority on such a complex program as 3ds.
#59883From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADOct 2, 1993 1:06 AM
Dear Martin: I couldn't agree more. Of course, books (regardless of the author) stand on their own merits. I've known fabulous people who wrote great books and not so great books. A manuscript, what with all those hands working on it in editing and production, takes on a life of its own.
#59614From: Mike KelleySep 30, 1993 1:56 PM
Maybe you're not one to ask, Nancy, but I find it interesting (and nice) that all of a sudden there are about three or four books coming out on 3DStudio. Why this sudden (what amounts to) glut of books on a too long neglected program? I remember Waite (of the famous Waite series) writing on this forum trying to decide if it was worth putting out a book on 3DStudio and coming to a general consensus that it wasn't, given the amount of target bodies. I guess you and the other authors made a decision to jump into the void, and I truly thank you. I, for one, intend to buy all these books — I think you can never have enough information.
#59714From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADOct 1, 1993 1:00 AM
Glut! Glut! Well, I'm a member of a glut and I haven't been published yet. And there are not that many books. Michelle's, Steven Elliots, mine – not so many and these three books target VERY different audiences (I think). As for jumping into the void – the problem is that there are, despite all rumours to the countrary, under 25000 official users of 3d studio. (Right Gary?). Now, how many copies of MS Word? Word for Windows? AutoCAD? Novell? So publishers say – OK, where shall I invest my hard earned dollars. Unless they have an IN on this particular market (as Advanstar and Pyros do) they might be inclined to think that the target market is too small to sell many copies. The reason there are books out now for 3DS is cause Michelle, Steve (and his co-writer) and I are die hard fans willing to really push for books to get printed for this product. WE want to write the books because se` we have something to say – and we have managed to find publishers who stand behind our vision enough to back us. (Publishers and Distributors – sorry Mr. Pyros). What you have here is a simple case of Zealotry gone wild. I can go on for hours about why 3DS is a land mark product – but that is another message for another time. Cool.
#59782From: Mike KelleyOct 1, 1993 1:16 PM
>And there are not that many books. Michelle's, Steven Elliots, mine – not so many >and these three books target VERY different audiences (I think). Earlier in this thread someone mentioned a book by J. Jester on 3DStudio. And what about Todd Payne? He put a message about his book as well as a text file (AMR.TXT). But, I'm not complaining. As I said, I will buy them all (I already got Michelle's) as soon as they're available. And, since there weren't ANY books before, I consider five books (counting Michelle's series as one "entry") a veritible "feast" (perhaps glut was mischosen — I doubt whether I'll get "full" reading them all). And, yes, I do understand the economics of publishing — that was why I was so curious as to the sudden interest in print. But it's wonderful, and if your book is even half as helpful as Michelle's series I'll get my money's worth. But as to the audience — am I wrong in assuming I won't want them all? I mean, I'm not an architect, but I want to learn and hear as much about 3DStudio as possible. Just reading the BBS messages is great — so how do you think the various books are targeted?
#59884From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADOct 2, 1993 1:07 AM
Dear Mike: I didn't read about the other two books and haven't seen anything on them so I wasn't sure they were in production. I'm never sure about rumours I hear about what someone has seen on compuserve. If you've seen descriptions of the books, by all means post them again. I saw the New Riders, Michelle's and I knew about mine from . . . well various sources. Like you I think I own half the AutoCAD books published. I'm sort of a believer in spending $40 every week or so on a technical book – can't really call yourself a technical person unless your shelves bend under the weight of a thousand books on esoteric technical topics. As for targetting – I can't speak to that. You might well be interested in anything with 3D Studio in the name, like I am. Other peole may be looking for a replacement for the reference manuals – still others for something else. I know that different authors target different readers, and different market disciplines. And then, of course, everyone has to find a way to talk to their market. Advertising, reviews, etc. This too is part of targeting… Actually, I think having other books on the shelves that say 3D Studio on the cover may well help me sell copies of my book. Its hard to explain, but I have discovered that competition is a good marketing tool. For example, it is hard to sell photo-copiers if people have never heard of such a thing. But if Xerox, Canon and company all start selling them, all those marketing dollars hit the target audience Then the discussion changes from "What is it" to which is better and which meets the customer's needs better.
#60167From: Mike KelleyOct 4, 1993 1:04 PM
>Actually, I think having other books on the shelves that say 3D Studio on the >cover may well help me sell copies of my book. Its hard to explain, but I have >discovered that competition is a good marketing tool. That's very enlightened of you to think so, and I think quite accurate as well. Just as movie makers know that a big hit movie helps them all (which is why they ALL root for the "Jurrasic Park"s), I think a good book on 3D Studio just makes people anxious for more. As I said, I do intend to buy as many as people create. >If you've seen descriptions of the books, by all means post them again. >>There is another book I've located that is coming out November 19th Called >>"Inside 3D Studio" by J. Jester ISBN#1562050753 it is by Prentice Hall >>Computer Publishing 1-800-428-5331. This is from earlier in this thread. Here's the other post from elsewhere in the forum: >>After almost 2 years of promises from major publishers a book is finally been >>announced addressing advanced topics on 3D Studio. Because support could >>not be found among major publishers I personally funded and co-wrote Advanced >>Modeling and Rendering Techniques for 3D Studio(AMR). The book will be >>released Oct. 1, and advance orders will be taken immediately. This was from Todd Payne. As you said, there are rumors, and there are always projects that don't work out as people plan, but if at least two or three of these books are available I'll be thrilled. And… I'm sure your efforts will be appreciated by even those who have a lot of skill with 3DS. Even in the arena that I am knowledgable in (NOT 3DS), I appreciate books which "sum up" the things I know — it reminds me so I don't forget, and let's me know that I was on the right track of a good way to do something.
#59828From: david W. mennenohOct 1, 1993 6:48 PM
>> As for jumping into the void – the problem is that there are, despite all >> rumours to the countrary, under 25000 official users of 3d studio. (Right >> Gary?). Nancy, But of course _everyone_ will buy a book. I'm sure many people who don't own 3DS will also buy the book just to see what it's about. The CD will help in this area also. I know I can't wait to get my copy. Will it be in book stores at all? Dave Mennenoh
#59885From: Nancy Fulton, OpenCADOct 2, 1993 1:07 AM
Dear David: What a nice thing to say. Yes it will be in book stores – and in Cadalyst regularly. I'm their 3D Studio Contributing Editor and this is an Advanstar book, or you can order it in advance. And those users outside the U.S. can contact Advanstar on (216) 826-2802 to find out how to get their copy. The thing is, and it occurs to me whenever I post on this forum – You Guys are the toughest audience. About 3/4's of YOU could have written the silly book (and all the other ones being mentioned on the forum). You'll all probably buy copies of all of them (just to get the models on the CD, and the IPAS routines or whatever). You probably have your upgrades on order (or plan to put them in any minute). Its the other 5 billion people in the world I'm worried about. n.