CompuServe Thread

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#123136From: SyndesisSep 10, 1994 9:36 AM
Are you paying your Compuserve bills on time? 🙂 But seriously, where's your daily backup when you need it?
#123141From: krazy imagesSep 10, 1994 11:04 AM
Daily backup? Bwahahahahaha!!! <g> ana /krazy images
#123261From: SyndesisSep 11, 1994 1:55 PM
Put an Exabyte or DAT to use! Use it daily! Store the tapes in a safe, off-site place! Do it now, or be prepared to lose important data at what will seem to be the worst time ever!
#123273From: krazy imagesSep 11, 1994 3:46 PM
Hey John, slow down <bg> Thanks for the advice, anyway 🙂 I backup all the important stuff on MO-128 disks, both from the 8100 and the PCs. Faster and more durable than magnetic storage <g> Does this mean that I consider CIS non-important stuff? Well, put it this way: if you say yes, you win the trip to Bahamas 🙂 Seriously, I have all the important threads saved, but a daily backup of _all_ the stuff I got from CIS is not my idea of low utility cost <g> ana /krazy images
#123388From: SyndesisSep 12, 1994 1:14 PM
I use a text-oriented telecom program called Pro-YAM. I've saved every byte of every online session I've had since 1986f or so. I've got them all on boxes of floppies in the basement. Someday, there will be a magnetic medium that will hold them all in one place, with a nice inverted index to help me find things. 🙂 I'm a digital packrat! My great-grandmother would be fproud. I think she saved every (paper) letter she received in her lifetime, too, because we found them all in the attic.
#123405From: Jamie Clay [DPh]Sep 12, 1994 2:50 PM
>> I've got them all on boxes of floppies in the basement. If you're ever planning on using that data again, I hope you have it well sealed. Disks do not hold up at all for long storage periods. The materials break down with almost any level of exposure. I recall reading an article on this somewhere, where magnetic media generally won't last longer than 10 years and that's when kept in cool dry storage. (this goes for tapes as well) Just thought I'd mention it. J-me
#123500From: krazy imagesSep 13, 1994 2:32 AM
Tapes= slow magnetic devices with very limited lifetime 🙂 ana /krazy images
#123541From: SyndesisSep 13, 1994 10:12 AM
No, they're just in cardboard boxes, and usually stored in basements. I've always wondered about floppies. I'd wished that someone did a deep, in-depth analysis of their modes of failure. I think there's conventional wisdom about what makes them fail, and I don't think it has anything to do with what actually makes them fail. For example, does a refrigerator magnet have the power to scrog a disk and under what circumstances? How does this susceptibility vary with temperature, motion, etc.? I've heard people say that static electricity could zap a disc. I've found that disks can get zapped after being cushioned in an inch of bubble pack, yet I've had more reliability from bare disks mailed cross-country in a plain business envelope for 29 cents. I have thought about transferring all that data to other formats, but in terms of parallelism and reliability, I have a hard time believing that tapes would hold up longer than floppies. Perhaps a one-off CDROM would be best.