#PMS Colors Settings
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Good Morning Greg!
I've got a client that faxed me a logo he wants done.
since the fax is black and white and he's using the PMS or Pantone Matching
Syst. Numerical values to describe what he's hoping we can come close to I'm
wondering if anyone has done a 3D Studio RGB to Pantone Chart.
Is such a thing available?
He wants red 185
and Blue 300
on his Pantone color chart.
The closer we come the happier he's gonna be.
Any idea if such a thing exists?
Thanks in advance.
Murph'
Hello James!
>> Pantone colors vs. Video colors
This has always been a tough one. Pantone colors are made for print, video is
totally different.
Also, imagine he has a sphere of "his" color. Where is his color on the
sphere? The ambient area, the diffuse area, or the highlight? Somewhere in
between? How shiny, etc.?
Perception is the most important in something like this. Scan in the Pantone
color (assuming you have a chart) and use a paint program to get the RGB
components of it. Start with that in the Materials Editor, and make an array
of spheres on your screen, each with a slightly different RGB value. Then let
your client decide which one he likes best! Not only is he then responsible
<g>, we have found that the client is often happier at getting more input into
the design process!
Greg Pyros
Thanks Greg!
I'll have to really get a scanner in here.
All that type of equipment is coming but it's pretty hard to spend 5 times what
the job is worth just to keep warm fuzzy's.
I'm afraid I'm limited to long distance telephone calls at the moment.
What will probably happen is he'll look at a piece I've already sent him with
Red and Blue in it and tell me lighter or darker and I'll hope like hell he's
happy with it.
There's that Darn Catch 22 thing again…gotta have all that neat equipment to
get the jobs to pay for all that neat equipment.
You don't happen to have any spare $20K jobs laying around do Ya'? <BG>.
Thanks for the response though I was hoping that someone had put together a
guesstamate type of chart..I know Gamma and all that aside it's still helpful
to know what numerical values someone has set for a particular material.
I've even freeze framed some of Digimations tutorials where you could read the
settings he used for that Gold Material in his Video demo.
Guess What? It Looked Great!
Now I'm sure my Gamma is different from His Gamma, which is certainly different
than your Gamma, but the same numbers at least gives us a starting point.
Maybe I should get the Pantone chart and just "eyeball it".
Anybody got a Pantone Chart with the Red 185 and Blue 300 on it?? <g>
I'm serious….I don't have a clue where to get one without sending in over
$100 to CorelDraw.
That seems a bit pricy for a Chart.
Thanks again Greg I'll file this away for future reference so I remember the
Scanner/Client input thingy! <g>
I really appreciate this.
Murph'
James:
Any art supply or print store should have a Pantone chart for you.
Greg Pyros
James,
Here are the RGB and the HSB model numbers for the two colors that you need. I
must preface these with the same warnings that Greg gave, these are colors for
printing, and as such will not necessarily look the same in video. I am sure
that you are aware of the hue knob on the TV and that clients often set this in
some of the wierdest positions. I do not envy you working with specific colors
with a client in a distant location. I can see him now, holding up a piece of
his letterhead under warm floresent lights and comparing it to the color on his
misadjusted tv set, with you on the phone, "James, I said the logo was Red 185
and Blue 300, not yellow and cyan, or is that brown abd aqua."
Anyway here is a start.
RED185 BLUE300
R 256 H 350 R 0 H 206
G 23 S 232 G 145 S 255
B 61 B 255 B 255 B 255
Good Luck
Fred
Fred:
Hello there! Haven't seen you on ASOFT in a while! Welcome back!
Greg Pyros
Oh, I've been here, I've just not had the time to participate. I
think you know what that is like. 🙂
This body of floating information can be exasperating, I would
download a weeks worth of messages, take a week to read them and then
start over again. There is so much useful stuff, I hate to pass over
anything.
I have been involved in integrating some new equipment at the suite.
One piece worth noting is the Pinnacle Alladin. Kind of a neat
little box. It is a DVE, switcher with four kinds of keys and a
proprietary key (some kind of alpha channel deal) and integrated
paint program. It also comes with a striped down version of
Inscriber VMP called Inscriber CG as well as Crystal Topas and Flying
Fonts Pro. All for about 10K. Used to be that functionality would
have been five dedicated boxes and about 150K.
Oh, yes, I can relate! Good to see you back here, at least for a word
or two!
>> Used to be that functionality would have been five dedicated boxes
and >> about 150K.
Computers, video equipment, where will it end? ;^)
Thanks Fred!
This will help!
Murph'
Fred,
I want to thank you again for this good head start on these particular
colors…even though everyones systems are set up different, this does in fact
make a good beginning. All I had to do was take the Pantone Colors I had
Bonnie at Kinko shoot for me and hold em up to the NTSC Rendered Screen through
the composite output on the VTR and we got very close.
Again everyone sees color differently but I think we nailed it pretty good!
<BG>
All it took was a little Tweeking in the Materials Ambiant and Diffuse regions
and we were _there_. <g>
Thanks again!
Murph'