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#3000 RAM

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#163557From: Norman HamerSep 12, 1994 1:14 PM
Steven: I remember several year back that chip manufacturers in this country jumped up and down saying that Japan was dumping chips at under cost. The government forced Japan to quota the production to the US so as to give the US a chance to catch up and cut their production costs. At about the same time a very large electronics ceramics factory burned in Japan which made it easy for Japan to go along with the chip quota. It appears that the price of memory chips has stayed the same for almost four years and are probably held there by some government agreement and not by the market place. Also it seems there is little cost saving by buy big chip over one meg chip. This seems artificial and not being controlled by a free market. It is funny how the big companies all want a free market place until the competition gets to hot. Regards, Norm
#163574From: Steven D. KapplinSep 12, 1994 3:04 PM
Norm, I know that US pressures on Japan to change their trade practices has been substantial, and that several minor agreements were made earlier this year, but I don't recall any mention of electronic parts being a part of these agreements. Japan has been pressured not to dump product on the domestic market, but that is not government price fixing. Rather, Japan is being pressured to sell the products on our market based on market demand and not Japanese government price support. Based on my chip purchases over the past 10 years, chip prices are definitely higher today than two years ago and cheaper two years ago than four years ago. So the market has fluctuated quite a bit both based on supply/demand conditions as well as on US trade pressure on Japan. Note that recent NAFTA agreement might impact on the prices of chips coming from other parts of the world. Although Japan is a major producer, so is Mexico, Taiwan, and Korea. As for your last comment, well that's business. Free market competition means, also, the opportunity to crowd out competition. However, I think what you really mean is that business would rather operate in a monopoly than in perfect competition. Neither, however, need operate outside of a free market, which really has more to do with minimizing external (government) influence. In fact most businesses prefer it. Just keep in mind that Japanese business is not free market nor do the Japanese believe in free markets. They relish government interference since it is usually favorable for them.
#163642From: Russell WilliamsSep 12, 1994 11:13 PM
To bring this all back down to the issue that first started it, my friend bought 4 megs of 1×4 ZIPs for 200 bucks from Memory World, and I installed them lickity split in about an hour, and everything worked fine. As a word of caution, when installing any memory chip, and especially the ZIPs, make sure that you apply equal pressure across as much of the top of the chip (when pushing it down into the slot) as possible. I used both hands when installing the chip, and I had no bending problems (which I ran into the last time I tried this). -R
#163755From: Steven D. KapplinSep 13, 1994 8:24 PM
Gee, Rusty, you're just about as good as VisionWorks — glasses in just about an hour!! Seriously, glad you got the chips installed.