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#Help with Ipas

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#126167From: WillSep 29, 1994 5:22 AM
I'm a novice programmer that is just learning C/C++ and want to write IPAS programs. I bought Watcom C/C++ 32 and have been learning a little. I saw where you need the IPAS developers Kit for $250. I would like to know if there will be a new IPAS kit for 3DSr4 IPAS's and what exactly I need to develop these programs. Do I need anything more than the Watcom compiler and the IPAS kit. Like I said, I'm new to this type of programming so any help here, or even recommendations of books or good was to learn C would be a lot of help! —Will
#126185From: LEE STEELSep 29, 1994 8:04 AM
You will be better served to dump Watcom and get Metaware High C and Pharlap Extensions. There is no interactive debugging support or required Trap Files for Watcom. Take my word for it, We found out the hard way. -Lee
#126401From: SyndesisSep 30, 1994 8:44 AM
I'm working on an article for Planet Studio, talking about the technical basics of IPAS development: what sort of software you need, the pluses and minuses of each compiler, the basic flow of control, etc. I'd love to hear more of your experiences with using both compiler systems. I bought the Metaware / PharLap system right off the bat because of recommendations from this forum. I may be looking at the Watcom system for another project.
#126892From: LEE STEELOct 3, 1994 11:53 AM
John, Watcom: No Debugging because of the lack of trap files required for each type of plug-in. Autodesk doesn't appear to have the time to write these files and Watcom feels it's Autodesk's responsibility. Without these trap files the only means of debugging is to write out print statements. Other than that this was the only drawback to using Watcom. -Lee
#126924From: SyndesisOct 3, 1994 5:20 PM
Since I don't have Watcom, I don't know what a "trap file" is. Can you explain? Perhaps I know it by another name. What do they do? In other words, you can't debug without them? They contain the symbols for the routines and data in the link library code?
#126984From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Oct 3, 1994 9:25 PM
Hi John, << Since I don't have Watcom, I don't know what a "trap file" is. Can you explain? Perhaps I know it by another name. What do they do? In other words, you can't debug without them? They contain the symbols for the routines and data in the link library code? >> I've got the full thread at work. I'll mail it to you in the morning. They (trap files) are fully described with some of the ACAD API Watcom support readmes. There was a trap file written to support ACAD but it is not at all compatible for IPAS. jonas[adesk]
#126186From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Sep 29, 1994 8:21 AM
Hi Will, <<.. and want to write IPAS programs. I bought Watcom C/C++ 32 and have been learning a little. I saw where you need the IPAS developers Kit for $250. I would like to know if there will be a new IPAS kit for 3DSr4 IPAS's>> Yes, by all means… Numerous modifications were done to the 3DS.exe to support more data structures and functionality. << and what exactly I need to develop these programs. Do I need anything more than the Watcom compiler and the IPAS kit.>> Watcom 9.5 was the most recent version supported for IPAS3 and IPAS4 should support Watcom 10.0. The Metaware compiler route will give you a debug environment with Metaware's debugger or PharLap's debugger while Watcom does not have an ability to debug IPAS. << Additional info… >> Please search the Software Dev Kit section of the lib with a KEYWORD: IPAS3 and download and read/peruse all of the files. jonas[adesk]