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#Help! PAR ouput ?????

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#188918From: DAVID CAMPSep 3, 1995 6:51 PM
I've worked with BETA-SP decks many times at my job ( A / V guy at a convention center) Every time I've used BETA SP decks in the past I've had to connect four BNC connecters, ( Red, Green, Blue, and Sync, (( sometimes there are 2 syncs, both Hor. and Vert.) But Componant has always been (for me anyway) "R-G-B" . So now I get a call from a good friend who's compnny just rented him a BETA deck for an animation and he calls me with this question…. He said…." My animation is coming out of the BETA deck and I only see the top half of it, it looks like it is rolled over" I said… " It sounds like a sync problem, Did you connect the R,G,B and the sync from the PAR? " ( I've only used the composit output from my PAR, but I do remember wondering why the componet adapter only had three plugs) Now he says….. " What R-G-B?, I have CAV?" So I look in the Manual and sure enough there is " R-Y, B-Y, and Y ( plus a GPI Freeze) that make up the CAV/GPI in So can someone please help? (The deck's costing his company a pretty penny and the animation is due tuesday. Thanks David Camp
#188931From: Dennis FenskeSep 3, 1995 8:57 PM
David; >> So now I get a call from a good friend who's compnny just rented him a >> BETA deck for an animation Our company did a similar thing last year and this year for me. I had a big horizontal bar across the screen last year when I recorded the animation. I couldn't get any help in the middle of the night, and it had to be back in the AM, so I just recorded it. I was asked weeks later why the sync was not there. I didn't understand it at first, and this year was going to be a repeat, but I was able to call the video house, and they said "Do you have the sync hooked up?" I did not. I hooked it up, and all was well. >> I said… " It sounds like a sync problem, Did you connect the R,G,B >> and the sync from the PAR? " ( I've only used the composit output from my >> PAR, but I do remember wondering why the componet adapter only had three >> plugs) Mine has four. Three BNC's and an RCA. I hooked the RCA to the sync, and all was well. That's all I know. Hope it helps. Dennis
#188932From: DAVID CAMPSep 3, 1995 9:05 PM
Thanks
#188953From: Sep 4, 1995 12:16 AM
Dennis: >> Mine has four. Three BNC's and an RCA. I hooked the RCA to the >> sync, and all was well. FYI, the RCA connector is a GPI trigger. The sync is a BNC on the board itself. Greg Pyros
#188995From: Dennis FenskeSep 4, 1995 10:43 AM
Greg; >> FYI, the RCA connector is a GPI trigger. The sync is a BNC on the >> board itself. Thank you for correcting me on what that cable was, and where to find the real Sync connnector! As I look at my manual, I am still confused as to what is happening. The other three BNC connectors are 1. Video out. 2. Genlock Loop. 3. Genlock In. #2 and #3 are new terms for me. I am assuming #3 is the proper connection for the Sync. Would that be correct? Does this connect to the Beta Cam (for next time)? I don't have a "black burst or color bar signal that is time base corrected. Your direction and assistance is appreciated. Thanks, Dennis
#189010From: Don LandisSep 4, 1995 11:54 AM
Dennis: The PAR will output three types of video signals as you know: composite; Y/C; and component Y,R-Y,B-Y. The betacam SP decks require sync to be fed externally no matter what video signal you feed them if the sync switch is set for external. Some beta decks always need this sync to be external and have no sync switch. The easiest way to do this is hook up the composite video output from the PAR to the sync input of the betacam deck. If you also need composite video you can loop it through the composite video in and then to the sync input. Most of the time you will be using a component or Y/C signal but, again, in all cases you need sync and can get it from the composite video signal. The PAR manual references "genlock loop thru" This is NOT a sync or black burst signal _from_ the PAR. The genlock loop through is used to establish a common timing reference when using the PAR/TBC4 and any other video sources in connection with editing equipment. Again, use the video composite output for reference sync when the PAR is the source.
#189069From: Dennis FenskeSep 4, 1995 8:43 PM
Don; >> The easiest way to do this is hook up the composite video output from >> the PAR to the sync input of the betacam deck. Thanks for clarifying that Don. Video is a whole new wonderful world to explore! When I borrowed the BetaCam deck, I had never seen so many switches on a recorder. The last time, they had the "record inhibit" on, and I couldn't get that thing to work without outside help. Fortunately someone from work had experience with it, and was able to help me figure it out. Dennis Dennis
#189092From: Sep 4, 1995 11:37 PM
Dennis: >> Thank you for correcting me on what that cable was, and where to find >> the real Sync connector! Will the real sync connector please stand up? :^) DonL has you covered on the other questions, all I would add is that if you are not doing a loop through any video connector which has this capability, make sure to terminate the second connector! Many units have a small switch near the connector, with the PAR you have to add an external terminator yourself when you supply sync, if memory serves. Greg Pyros
#189294From: Dennis FenskeSep 5, 1995 9:46 PM
Greg; >> Will the real sync connector please stand up? :^) LOL! >> with the PAR you have to add an external terminator yourself when you >> supply sync Would this be the same type/value as for the network? Thanks, Dennis
#189395From: CSA/CASep 6, 1995 1:28 PM
Dennis, Network terminator are usually 50 ohm. Video terminators are usually 75 ohm. Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#189479From: Dennis FenskeSep 6, 1995 9:45 PM
Kevin; Thanks! Dennis