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#New system crashing

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#190327From: Steve DomyanSep 11, 1995 4:58 PM
I've recently upgraded an old box with a new Super Micro P55CM motherboard. (Pentium 133 Mhz.) 32meg RAM, Diam. Stealth 64 VRAM 4meg. I'm going nuts with this thing. I can't get 3ds R3 to talk reliably to either hard drives when I'm playing with a large model. I've stripped it down to nothing and it still crashes…. Config.sys c:\mouse1\mouse.exe prompt path Autoexec.bat buffers=50,0 files=100 lastdrive=z cfig386 -vdisk -minreal 4096 -maxreal 40000 -nur -intmap 8 -lfu -vscan 4000 When I load a large model (objects=580,faces=215,000,vert=112,000) and try to render, it crashes about the time it would swap to disk. Also if I save the file a bunch of times it will usually crash, and sometimes it will crash when I read it in. Small models (32k faces don't have this problem). I don't know what to try next. This has been going on for 4 days! This model used to render and swap fine with my old 486 board. The other difference is this EIDE controller is built into the mboard. Any suggestions? Thanks in Advance as they say, Steve
#190337From: Kevin OakesSep 11, 1995 6:37 PM
I'm not sure what's going on, but the "files=100" is not neccssary at all. Reduse this to 40. Also, try not to load any device drivers that's associated with harddrives, like the VDISK. I'm just give you some suggestion. Hopefully it will make a difference.
#190345From: Steve DomyanSep 11, 1995 8:13 PM
Thanks Kevin. At this point I'll try anything! Steve
#190411From: Greg WoznicaSep 12, 1995 5:09 AM
Have you checked the Dongle, perhaps you have damaged it, or the port when you upgraded,? Or the DS card could be causing some sort of Interfernce, I had a devil of a time trying to get it working when I upgraded, what driver are you using? Are the Drives formatted ok and free of bad areas e.g. a scan disk on them, Are you using dos 6.2 or that Ibm 7 thing? oh! and did you check the leads to and from the Hard Drives poer leads etc, and is 3D's the only programme that crashes? Best of Luck, the only other thing I can think of is why 3D's is paging for Small models, I have almost the same machine as you and LenZFX is the main reason for paging in my case, have you checked you RAM, and its setting in Bios (or what ever you have on your Motherboard?).
#190418From: Steve DomyanSep 12, 1995 7:37 AM
Greg, thanks for the response. I said it wrong, Small models DO NOT page, and DO NOT crash. Whenever, I try to go to the disk, it crashes. That can be when a large model swaps, or even if I save a model and write out to the disk. I'm using DOS 6.2. I've dongled the dongle, seems to be OK. This is the only software that crashes. I run Photoshop under windows and it swaps like crazy and has not crashed. Steve.
#190562From: Greg WoznicaSep 12, 1995 10:41 PM
Ug!, this sounds really wierd, perhaps reinstalling 3D's might help, did you reinstall any IPAS? Did you check the HD with scanddisk? Matt:)
#190608From: Steve DomyanSep 13, 1995 9:35 AM
Well Greg we're on the same wave length. I have reinstalled 3ds 3 times. I have scanddisk'd both my drives. I am not running any iPAS at this point. (I didn't reinstall them.) Steve.
#190713From: Greg WoznicaSep 13, 1995 6:12 PM
ug! I'm stuck on what to suggest, unless your master 3D's disk have gone wrong somewere, do you have aspare copy or a freind that can lend you his/hers original disks, Have Autodesk suggested anything? If all this has fallaid it must be A: 3D Studio or B: the mother Board or Harddisks, perhaps 3D's doesn't like your Hardisk Controllers, ot the Rom Bios are set wrong? Greg 🙂
#190737From: Steve DomyanSep 13, 1995 8:26 PM
I agree. I don't have an extra copy of 3ds kicking around. I've decided it must be a board/BIOS issue. I'm leaning toward BIOS. I sure would like to hear from someone who is using a Super Micro Mboard with an IDE controller. I may just get a replacment and see what happens. I have not heard from Autodesk. Steve
#190746From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Sep 13, 1995 9:04 PM
Hi Steve, << Small models DO NOT page, and DO NOT crash. Whenever, I try to go to the disk, it crashes. That can be when a large model swaps, or even if I save a model and write out to the disk. >> & << This model used to render and swap fine with my old 486 board. The other difference is this EIDE controller is built into the mboard. >> We've had similar reports in the past that were tested and corrected by focusing on the hard disk controller. Are you able to disable the onboard controller and use a seperate hard disk controller card inorder to test your system/3ds? jonas[adesk]
#190805From: Steve DomyanSep 14, 1995 8:19 AM
Jonas, I have one coming in tomorrow. It turns out it is very hard to find an external PCI EIDE controller these days because all the boards have them built in. Thanks for the response, I'll let you know what happens when I get it plugged in. Steve
#190730From: Kevin OakesSep 13, 1995 8:10 PM
No problem, Steve, I've also heard that there is a way to motify the 3DS.set, or exe file, to get a clean 3DS loadup. I'm not too sure how to do it, but you can contact Autodesk. Hope I helped. Good luck, my friend.
#190738From: Steve DomyanSep 13, 1995 8:28 PM
Thanks Kevin. I hate this technology stuff. If I wanted to do this I could have stayed in engineering! Later, Steve