#System and 3DS MAX
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I am eagerly awaiting, as everyone else is, the release of MAX. In preparation
to this event, I am tooling up to run NT and MAX. Currently, I am searching for
a dream machine within my budjet less than $4000. So far the one machine that
catches my eye is a DIGITAL system, the Celebris XL. It has dual pentium
capabilities and also an option to add an ALPHA chip as its processor. This
system appears to have plenty of options as growth paths which means at least
some kind of machine life. If anyone has any opinion about this or other
systems that they feel are worth merit I would appreciate your input during my
investigation.
Thanks,
Kyle Strawitz
Perhaps with that budget it might be better to get two machines in stead of one
super PC, I have a P133 and a DX4 and 66, I build on the P133, but slave
render on the other two, although they arn't networked just yet they soon
will be, this way I can still build while rendering Stills etc, thus I get
ebery working moment possible out of the P133 instead of sitting back and
having to wait for it to render, of course it may be possible under Max and NT
to run 3D's twice and render on one and build on the other, who knows?
The big problem with two machines is that you have to pay for two amounts of
RAM!, e.g. 32 min' in each, so that jacks the price up,
Hope that helps
matt
Kyle,
>> Celebris XL … has dual pentium capabilities and also an option to add an
ALPHA chip as its processor. <<
Sounds good on paper but from what I've heard the upgraded daughtercards end up
costing you _far_ more than just upgrading the motherboard. Alan Iglesias might
be able to elaborate on this – he has personal dealings with DEC.
For this reason I'm not a fan of proprietary architectures. I like to get
industry standard commodity priced components that can be swapped out for the
least possible cost. Generally this means buying the fastest system that is
readily available now and upgrading the motherboard when it makes sense to. I
like to find a local dealer who can make systems for me the way I specify and
who entertains the idea of upgrading motherboards possibly with a trade-in of
the old ones.
I suggest going with fastest dual Pentium capable system you can afford (don't
buy the 2nd CPU yet) and don't skimp on RAM. Once MAX comes out and you're
comfortable with it, get the 2nd CPU then because the price will be lower OR
get more RAM whichever will result in the best speed increase. The 2nd CPU will
give you an immediate 60-70% speed increase as long as you have sufficient RAM.
I've found an 80% speed increase in Photoshop3 under NT (on certain filters) by
adding a 2nd Pentium 100 cpu to my system.
Do you know the name of any good dual pentium motherboards out there,
specifically 133's?
Tim,
>> Do you know the name of any good dual pentium motherboards out there,
specifically 133's? <<
no, I don't. I'd suggest calling ASUS directly and see if they can tell you if
they have a dual 133 yet. They could tell you of any vendors.
In addition to MartinF's comments, I'd say that the DEC Celebris is an
excellent, fully upgradable machine, Kyle.
I bought one of the original PC/XL's early last year, mainly hoping to
eventually easily upgrade to an Alpha, while keeping up with the Intel upgrades
in between. Shortly thereafter, Intel changed the chipset to support the faster
processors, and rendered some "easy" upgrade paths on my machine
non-obtainable. I am currently trying to get my machine upgraded in the manner
that was promised to me in the first place. At this time it looks *very*
promising.
The Celebris line, however, already *fully supports* single and dual fast Intel
solutions as well as present and future Alpha upgrades, so you have no worries
regarding the type of problems I am having.
As the Alpha is perhaps the "end of the line" as far as upgrades may need to
go, I'd say this machine was a very good bet. It's a little expensive, but the
upgradability, built-in SCSI and IDE controllers, and excellent warranty may
make it a good choice for you.
I'd carefully weigh Martin's advice (I buy hardware that way, too) against what
the Celebris line offers (and the cost, of course) and I think your way will
become clear.
Best of luck,
-Alan
Alan,
Thanks for the advice. From all my investigation into other brands HP, Micron,
Compaq, etc. it just seems that the Digital solution is the way to go mainly
because of its upgradeablity within Intel and to the Alpha. I realize that it
is a bit expensive, but I really do not know any other cheaper solution to get
dual pentiums plus such a powerful upgrade path. I'm working in the L.A. area
for a game company, so needless to say I do not have unlimited financial
resources. I am see-sawing between a super system and a moderately priced
system. I know that I really want dual Pentium capability that is imperative
for MAX performance. If you know of a value priced system that has this
feature, I would appreciate your thoughts on it. In the past I usually built my
systems but now it just seems so impractical. The one advantage is the ability
to swap out parts as they become outdated namely the motherboard. This is what
I think Martin was talking about.
On another issue, I have about 96mb of double sided 80ns ram that I am using
in my Zenith PC. One concern to me is if this memory will work in the Celebris
XL? If not, this means even more bucks that I have to spend to get up to speed.
Thanks for any further advice and assistance that you can give me concerning
these matters.
Thanks,
Kyle A. Strawitz
Kyle,
I have access to resonably priced hardware such as dual Pentiums, DEC Alphas,
and Sun Sparcs. OpenGL cards, too.
Drop me a note what your interested in.
Hi Kyle,
Sorry, but I've been so busy getting DEC to come clean, that I've not had the
chance to really investigate what's out there in terms of dual proccesor
systems. There is a dual 133 MoBo I was looking at called the Tempest. If
you're interested, call Joe @ 619-660-0613 for more info.
I'm pretty sure the Celebris will take the standard 72-pin RAM. Gice DEC a call
at 800-722-9332 to get the whole story on DEC PCs.
-Alan