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#System and 3DS MAX

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#191215From: KYLE A. STRAWITZSep 17, 1995 2:00 AM
I am eagerly awaiting, as everyone else is, the release of MAX. In preparation to this event, I am tooling up to run NT and MAX. Currently, I am searching for a dream machine within my budjet less than $4000. So far the one machine that catches my eye is a DIGITAL system, the Celebris XL. It has dual pentium capabilities and also an option to add an ALPHA chip as its processor. This system appears to have plenty of options as growth paths which means at least some kind of machine life. If anyone has any opinion about this or other systems that they feel are worth merit I would appreciate your input during my investigation. Thanks, Kyle Strawitz
#191251From: Greg WoznicaSep 17, 1995 10:52 AM
Perhaps with that budget it might be better to get two machines in stead of one super PC, I have a P133 and a DX4 and 66, I build on the P133, but slave render on the other two, although they arn't networked just yet they soon will be, this way I can still build while rendering Stills etc, thus I get ebery working moment possible out of the P133 instead of sitting back and having to wait for it to render, of course it may be possible under Max and NT to run 3D's twice and render on one and build on the other, who knows? The big problem with two machines is that you have to pay for two amounts of RAM!, e.g. 32 min' in each, so that jacks the price up, Hope that helps matt
#191278From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 17, 1995 1:42 PM
Kyle, >> Celebris XL … has dual pentium capabilities and also an option to add an ALPHA chip as its processor. << Sounds good on paper but from what I've heard the upgraded daughtercards end up costing you _far_ more than just upgrading the motherboard. Alan Iglesias might be able to elaborate on this – he has personal dealings with DEC. For this reason I'm not a fan of proprietary architectures. I like to get industry standard commodity priced components that can be swapped out for the least possible cost. Generally this means buying the fastest system that is readily available now and upgrading the motherboard when it makes sense to. I like to find a local dealer who can make systems for me the way I specify and who entertains the idea of upgrading motherboards possibly with a trade-in of the old ones. I suggest going with fastest dual Pentium capable system you can afford (don't buy the 2nd CPU yet) and don't skimp on RAM. Once MAX comes out and you're comfortable with it, get the 2nd CPU then because the price will be lower OR get more RAM whichever will result in the best speed increase. The 2nd CPU will give you an immediate 60-70% speed increase as long as you have sufficient RAM. I've found an 80% speed increase in Photoshop3 under NT (on certain filters) by adding a 2nd Pentium 100 cpu to my system.
#191489From: Tim c BrananSep 18, 1995 7:10 PM
Do you know the name of any good dual pentium motherboards out there, specifically 133's?
#191499From: MARTIN G FOSTERSep 18, 1995 8:44 PM
Tim, >> Do you know the name of any good dual pentium motherboards out there, specifically 133's? << no, I don't. I'd suggest calling ASUS directly and see if they can tell you if they have a dual 133 yet. They could tell you of any vendors.
#191316From: ALAN IGLESIASSep 17, 1995 8:58 PM
In addition to MartinF's comments, I'd say that the DEC Celebris is an excellent, fully upgradable machine, Kyle. I bought one of the original PC/XL's early last year, mainly hoping to eventually easily upgrade to an Alpha, while keeping up with the Intel upgrades in between. Shortly thereafter, Intel changed the chipset to support the faster processors, and rendered some "easy" upgrade paths on my machine non-obtainable. I am currently trying to get my machine upgraded in the manner that was promised to me in the first place. At this time it looks *very* promising. The Celebris line, however, already *fully supports* single and dual fast Intel solutions as well as present and future Alpha upgrades, so you have no worries regarding the type of problems I am having. As the Alpha is perhaps the "end of the line" as far as upgrades may need to go, I'd say this machine was a very good bet. It's a little expensive, but the upgradability, built-in SCSI and IDE controllers, and excellent warranty may make it a good choice for you. I'd carefully weigh Martin's advice (I buy hardware that way, too) against what the Celebris line offers (and the cost, of course) and I think your way will become clear. Best of luck, -Alan
#191361From: KYLE A. STRAWITZSep 18, 1995 4:06 AM
Alan, Thanks for the advice. From all my investigation into other brands HP, Micron, Compaq, etc. it just seems that the Digital solution is the way to go mainly because of its upgradeablity within Intel and to the Alpha. I realize that it is a bit expensive, but I really do not know any other cheaper solution to get dual pentiums plus such a powerful upgrade path. I'm working in the L.A. area for a game company, so needless to say I do not have unlimited financial resources. I am see-sawing between a super system and a moderately priced system. I know that I really want dual Pentium capability that is imperative for MAX performance. If you know of a value priced system that has this feature, I would appreciate your thoughts on it. In the past I usually built my systems but now it just seems so impractical. The one advantage is the ability to swap out parts as they become outdated namely the motherboard. This is what I think Martin was talking about. On another issue, I have about 96mb of double sided 80ns ram that I am using in my Zenith PC. One concern to me is if this memory will work in the Celebris XL? If not, this means even more bucks that I have to spend to get up to speed. Thanks for any further advice and assistance that you can give me concerning these matters. Thanks, Kyle A. Strawitz
#191396From: Mark D. PippinSep 18, 1995 9:54 AM
Kyle, I have access to resonably priced hardware such as dual Pentiums, DEC Alphas, and Sun Sparcs. OpenGL cards, too. Drop me a note what your interested in.
#191403From: ALAN IGLESIASSep 18, 1995 10:24 AM
Hi Kyle, Sorry, but I've been so busy getting DEC to come clean, that I've not had the chance to really investigate what's out there in terms of dual proccesor systems. There is a dual 133 MoBo I was looking at called the Tempest. If you're interested, call Joe @ 619-660-0613 for more info. I'm pretty sure the Celebris will take the standard 72-pin RAM. Gice DEC a call at 800-722-9332 to get the whole story on DEC PCs. -Alan