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#New Virus hidden on demo

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#16268From: James HyattOct 12, 1988 11:55 PM
I thought I would pass along a warning about a new virus making the rounds. It comes in the guise of an actually very nice demo. It shows demons floating within crystal bubbles, accompanied by very sinister music. If you should have someone upload this, be careful, it doesn't follow the virus systems we've grown used to. Rumor is it doesn't need to infect bootable disks, but all disks. More in the way of speculation and rumor about this virus is it can somehow cause hardware damage. I hope this helps. It came to Denver in from the West Coast, and is known here as "Doc". No author on the upload. Good Luck avoiding this little monster. Jim Hyatt
#16358From: Joel "Walrus" SalazarOct 13, 1988 10:13 AM
Jim, you really should confirm a rumor like this before posting a message on it. What kind of proof do you have that there's a virus or trojan horse in "Doc"? "Doc" is widely available, and I've heard no reports of problems with it. I have it, I've run it several times, it does nothing to your hardware, it does not write to any disks (even if they're left un-write-protected) when run, the disk with "Doc" on it is exactly the same after as before running (you do have to reboot to get out of the demo though), etc. What exactly are you claiming "Doc" will do to a disk or to your hardware? I've had no problems with it at all. It's very similar to many other European demos available, only its better. -Joel
#16410From: John DraperOct 13, 1988 5:14 PM
Jim, Now there's the one thing we really didn't need… an unconfirmed rumor about a new virus. I was told of this program by a someone who had run it, and afterward had some problems with his hard drive. As you know, there are a lot of reasons other than a virus that could cause hard drive problems, and one instance of hard drive problems after running a program certainly constitutes no more than a possibility that the particular program was at fault. CBM was informed of the possibility, and did some testing, and when I was told, I downloaded it and did some testing myself. The results of CBM's and my testing were both negative, and I spoke with the person at CBM who tested it. Our opinions were the same. Our testing does not guarantee that the program is not a virus, but we both felt it was worth keeping an eye open for any more instances that placed suspicion on it. My testing was done as follows… I built a 'system' disk on one of my 20 meg drives, including the executable of DOC. I then copied that entire partition to the second 20 meg drive. This was for comparison before and after running DOC. I ran DOC by 1. Booting from a disk with DOC on it. 2. Running it from a floppy. 3. Running it from the hard drive. This was with the second 20 meg drive powered down. After numerous runs, each for a period of 3-5 minutes, I checked for any differences between the files on the 2 20 meg drive. There were none. Regardless of this, we have removed DOC from public view in the lLIB, and will await developments before deciding whether to make it public or not. If you can confirm any other cases of possible infection, please do so. Otherwise, it's not productive to spread an unfounded rumor.