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#Postscript fonts

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#2318From: dick hannaOct 18, 1988 5:15 PM
Is the program you mention for converting Macintosh fonts for converting Postscript fonts or bit-mapped fonts? I need Postscript fonts. Adobe publishesver 300 different fonts in addition to the 35 fonts available on most Postscript printers. Screen representations for these fonts are available from a variety of sources, but are only in formats that can be used by Mac's or IBM's. I'm looking for a source of screen representations of these fonts that are in a format my Amiga can read and use.
#2322From: SyndesisOct 18, 1988 6:26 PM
The PD converter program only converts Mac bitmap fonts to Amiga bitmap fonts. There is also a PD program to create Professional Page metric files. I'm curious about the process you plan to use in order to use downloadable PostScript fonts. How does Pro Page perform the substitution of names? I'd guess as long as it finds a screen rep font, and a metric file, that it will use the font name in the PostScript code it generates? How will you send the downloadable fonts to the printer, just with COPY?
#2543From: Mike HobartOct 26, 1988 10:24 PM
One point about Adobe's screen fonts. They are copyrighted by Adobe, who gets rather picky about copyright infringement. So you are violating the copyright law if you make converted Amiga versions of the copyrighted Mac fonts.
#2561From: SyndesisOct 27, 1988 1:02 PM
Adobe has plenty of screen fonts that are available for the effort, without apparent restriction. Just go over to the Adobe forum. Or, buy them from Adobe. What's the difference between downloading them to your Mac or PC, or to your Amiga? I don't think there is an infringement. Also note that City Desk will read the .AFM files from the Adobe forum, too.
#2565From: microsmithsOct 27, 1988 6:45 PM
I would check with a lawyer before using any Adobe fonts stored in a format other than the .AFM file format. If you convert the data to an Amiga font format, and particlarly then if you include them with a commercial software package, life could get interesting.
#2568From: New Horizons SoftwareOct 27, 1988 8:42 PM
You can't copyright bit map font data. You can, however, trademark the names. Hence there is nothing keeping you from using a "Helvetica"-like font (for example) and calling it "Swiss". Also, the AFM files do not contain font data, merely font metric information (i.e. character spacing and kerning info). The AFM stands for "Adobe Font Metric", obviously not font data.
#2575From: microsmithsOct 27, 1988 11:30 PM
You're welcome to do as you like. My guess is they could get you if they could prove that you had used an algorithmic conversion program to convert their fonts to your fonts, in a different file format. You're in a better position to know, since you're selling a font-using WP. I would certainly check the legalities before I used the fonts in a different file format, or for that matter in any commercial way.
#2592From: New Horizons SoftwareOct 28, 1988 9:12 PM
I didn't mean to imply in my previous message that we are using PostScript screen fonts without a license, merely stating the facts of the legalities involved. Sure, Adobe has lots of money and they could (try to) go after someone who generates screen representations of their fonts. However the fact of the matter is (and there is even a recent legal decision supporting this) that bit-map data for fonts is not copyrightable. Although we are not planning to come out with non-licensed fonts, we _have_ researched the legalities involved (since, as you say, we have an interest in screen fonts for use in word processors).
#2584From: SyndesisOct 28, 1988 6:55 PM
AFM files aren't fonts, those are only the metric information , the spacing only. Adobe hands out the screen rep fonts, GO ADOBE and see. I wasn't planning to use them in a product – no doubt Adobe deserves a share then.
#2580From: Vic WagnerOct 28, 1988 1:55 AM
I thought I'd heard recently that you could NOT copyright computer fonts.
#2587From: Mike HobartOct 28, 1988 6:54 PM
You certainly can copyright fonts. That's the reason you see HP sell Tms Roman as one of their fonts, since the original Times Roman is trademarked and copyrighted. According to the other message, Adobe has not put copyright restrictions on their screen fonts. If that's correct, it's great news – just the answer for what people need for Postscript compatible screen fonts. Mike
#2594From: New Horizons SoftwareOct 28, 1988 9:21 PM
There was a recent decision by the bureau that handles copyrights (I believe, I'll have to look it up to be sure) that re-affirms that font bit-map data is NOT copyrightable. The reason that HP sells Tms Roman is because the name Times Roman is trademarked _only_. Not copyrighted. However, trademark protection is strong enough to keep others from using the same name, but they can still use the same font data (or equivalent data that generates equivalent results).
#2617From: Mike HobartOct 29, 1988 10:12 PM
Thanks for clarifying the issue. Mike