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#VESA Blues / Help

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#3863From: BOB JOHNSONOct 3, 1991 9:29 PM
I would appreciate some advice about whether or not ANI-PRO is an appropriate product for what I have in mind. I originally purchased Animator but found that the limitation of 320×200 did not allow me to do what I needed. Recently I upgraded to ANI-PRO but am sure having some trouble with it. What I want to do is: 1. Explain the operation of some instrumentation (vacuum systems and pressure measurement systems). These would not be unlike the demo of the internal combustion engine which is included with ANI-PRO. Text windows would open at each important point and explain what is happening. 2. Demonstrations of instruments which could be distributed to potential purchasers. These would include general descriptions of the product and pointing out important features. Some animation would be included which would show some operations of certain aspects. It would be essentially a VGA slide show with some simple animation. Now I thought that ANI-PRO was going to be my ideal environment. But after purchasing the upgrade a couple of weeks ago, I have yet to be able to run the program in 640×480 mode. I have finally today gone out and bought a new VGA board (ATI VGA WONDER with 1Meg) and in spite of loading the VESA driver that came with it, I still only get garbage or error messages when I try to change to 640×480 mode. If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate some help. I will probably hear that Panacea's product is going to be my answer. When doesn't the VESA that comes with this $300 video board work?! The other concern I have is that this. I wonder how anyone can ever distribute a FLC to other people to view in 640×480 mode. ??? It would be a miracle for the average user to happen to have the appropriate VESA driver handy to be able to view the FLC! Is ANI-PRO a reasonable product for building such demo FLC's and distributing them with the player for people to view? If not what is an appropriate product for this kind of use? Thanks for any suggestions anyone can offer! Bob J.
#3876From: Yost GroupOct 4, 1991 12:55 AM
AniPro will work perfectly for your application. Two things: 1) The VESA driver that came with your ATI board is bogus. Delete it and download VESA.ZIP from DL5 here in the forum. It includes a VESA driver for the ATI that will work fine. This will get you up and running in 640×480 mode immediately. 2) Graeme Devine (of Trilobyte) is a member of this forum and the author of PLAY. PLAY is a script-based .FLC player that's less than 20K and will be perfect for distributing your animations. You can download a shareware version of PLAY from DL9 (look for the most current version). If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. That's what we're here for. – Gary
#3891From: BOB JOHNSONOct 4, 1991 7:32 AM
Thanks very much for the information about the VESA driver and about PLAY. I will give both a try. It is really helpful to have help from people who have a lot of experience like is found on this forum. Thanks very much. I stil don't exactly understand whether it will be practical to expect people who might receive a "demo" FLC from me to have the a VGA board with enough memory to be able to run the FLC. I have been trying to get some things to run on a Toshiba 3100sx which uses Paradise chips but it does not have enough video ram to run in anything but 320×200. It would really be nice to have a version of ANI-PRO which would run at 640×480 with say on 16 colors. This might be something that could run on many systems. Very few (none that I know of) portables or standard systems come with more than about 256K of video RAM. Yet I receive demos from companies and run other graphics programs in 640×480 with no problem on a 256K RAM machine. Perhaps they only run with 16 colors but so what at least they are useful to more than just a precious few people. I too thought ANI-PRO would be a perfect way to do what I want. But at this point the requirement for heavy duty VGA is still somewhat of a potential problem when it comes to distribution of the FLC's. Thanks again! Bob J.
#3909From: Yost GroupOct 4, 1991 10:50 AM
Again, no problem. Trilobyte's PLAY program will play FLC's quite well directly off the hard disk… No extra RAM required! Check it out and I think you'll be pleased. – G
#3946From: BOB JOHNSONOct 4, 1991 7:17 PM
Thanks, I downloaded it this afternoon and will be trying it tonight. If indeed it will allow the playing of 640×480 FLC's with video RAM of less than 512K then I certainly will be very pleased. Thanks very much for all the help! Bob
#3938From: [F] Grant Blaha [Adesk]Oct 4, 1991 6:13 PM
You might want to look at Grasp as well. I don't know about Play, but a Grasp script can conditionally check for the resolution of the display and execute different FLC files depending on what it finds. You can even opt to not use any FLI files at all if you encounter a CGA display. -GB-
#3947From: BOB JOHNSONOct 4, 1991 7:21 PM
Thanks very much. I was actually unaware that GRASP could play Animator FLC files. I purchased GRASP a couple of years ago. I never could make GRASP do much. I know it must be a very powerful program but I admit to not being much of a programmer. Animator certainly seems to be more understandable to me. Anyway I will certainly take a look at GRASP. I am sure that my copy of GRASP must be version 1.0 or so. I will look into later versions. Thanks again! Bob
#4047From: Phil ShatzOct 7, 1991 7:27 AM
The current version of Grasp is version 4.5. GO GRASP for more.