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#New VB

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#2720From: Wendell MartinOct 11, 1991 7:15 PM
Hello, I was wondering if you, perhaps, knew when or if the next release of Visual Basic might be out. The one that restores such commands as PLAY and graphic GET/PUT, fixes the current quirks and bugs, and provides easier access to Windows features than the current Declare/Call. Thanks, Wendell Martin There is 1 Reply.
#2745From: Mark Novisoff/MicroHelpOct 12, 1991 7:42 AM
Wendell, Microsoft never talks about products or updates until they are ready to ship, so don't expect an answer from the sysop! In the meantime, my company (MicroHelp) has addressed part of what you asked about – we provide replacements for PLAY, MK?, CV?, etc. The graphics GET/PUT statements aren't practical in the VB environment. Instead, you work with graphics using bitmaps and icons. Unless you have some very special needs, I suspect VB will do what you need in its current incarnation. Re easier access to Windows features – again, my company addresses many of the more useful Windows services either via "custom controls" or assembly language routines. In the latter case, we provide an easy-to-use "wrapper" around the API services. Mark There is 1 Reply.
#2758From: George CampbellOct 12, 1991 11:43 AM
Mark, How big is the .DLL you have to distribute with programs that use your library? Both in raw form and ZIPped? George
#2781From: Mark Novisoff/MicroHelpOct 12, 1991 4:02 PM
George, There are two products that you might be interested in, depending on your needs. The sizes are: VBTools Muscle Raw 104,144 77,616 Zipped 40,297 46,146 Mark There is 1 Reply.
#2799From: George CampbellOct 12, 1991 5:23 PM
Mark, Thanks. That's not too bad at all, those file sizes. I think I could live with that. I'll take a look at your demos. George There is 1 Reply.
#2849From: john keslerOct 13, 1991 11:56 AM
George, >"Thanks. That's not too bad at all, those file sizes. I > think I could live with that. I'll take a look at your > demos." I think you are beginning to see the light! <big grin> When I saw Mark's response to your inquiry, I thought you might be pleasantly surprised. When you look at the demos and after you snap some of the routines into your own code (saving untold hours of trial and development error) I think you will agree that VBTools and VBMuscle offer tremendous value. A great bang-for-the-buck, and pretty good value-per-dll-byte too! 🙂 john k There is 1 Reply.
#2925From: George CampbellOct 14, 1991 8:44 AM
John, I know I'm getting a reputation on this forum as a curmudgeon, insisting that VB alone should offer the basic functions the user needs. I'm certainly not opposed to third-party libraries at all…actually I wish I was a good enough programmer to produce some of my own. I'm just playing devil's advocate here…trying to keep the typical VB user in mind…not just us hard-core denizens of this forum. It's easy to forget that huge majority of people who will buy this product, but who will rely completely on the resources included in the basic package. Still waiting for a list of additions to VB in the next release. George
#3184From: Don FunkOct 15, 1991 10:44 AM
Hi Wendell, Microsoft's policy is not to discuss future releases. Microsoft is eager though, to hear what you think about the product so that future releases can meet your needs. GET/PUT is implemented with the BitBlt/StrechBlt functions and are documented in the Knowledge Base. A simple version of Play is also documented in the Knowledge base. Don Funk