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#21MB Floptical Drive

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#72993From: Derek L.Oct 9, 1992 7:31 PM
Help! I have a Macintosh LC which I purchased a 21 Meg Floptical drive for by PLI (Peripheral Land Inc.). I also have an Amiga 2000 with a Dataflyer SCSI card, and a 52 Meg Seagate hard drive. I had a cable special made through Redmond Cable to allow me to hook up the 21 Meg Floptical to my Amiga. My SCSI card recognizes the device as I have it set at 5 in the chain. Unfortunately, I do not have the software to run the drive on my Amiga. I know that it is available because I've seen advertisements for the drive in AmigaWorld for the last few months. I have made dozens of phone calls to no avail. So far, I know that two kinds of 20 Meg Floptical devices are made, Briar and Insite. I have been told the two drives' media are not compatable with one another. I'm just interested in the software I need to connect the drive to my Amiga. If it is possible that some shareware program is available to do this, I would appreciate someone telling me where I could get it from. The drive mechanism I have is from Insite. After two weeks of calling around, I think Insite is the most abundant mechanism. Thanks to anyone who can help me. Please E-mail me at 76470,2564.
#73055From: Michael GerardOct 10, 1992 8:57 AM
Have you tried using CrossDos from Consultron? It proports support for the flopticals… in fact, Consultron sells floptical systems. Why not give them a call? 313-459-7271
#73114From: Patrick DohertyOct 10, 1992 10:28 PM
I'm still waiting for my floptical drive to arrive but – I think that Amiga DOS handles it just like a removable media hard drive. I also have a 44meg Syquest and anticipate setting up the floptical in a similar way. So that you don't trash disks when changing them make sure that they are all partitioned and formatted the same with the hard disk tool kit that is part of the 2.0 operating system. Since the floptical is a SCSI device it should not need any special sofware drivers to be used by AmigaDos. I could be wrong since I have not tried yet. Hope this helps. Patrick
#73261From: Paul ToalOct 12, 1992 5:29 AM
As the owner of a Syquest already, what made you buy a floptical too? I need a good excuse 🙂 –Paul Still on AutoPilot
#73290From: Patrick DohertyOct 12, 1992 12:24 PM
Paul, Syquest carts are expensive, flopticals are more compact, I need to write MSDOS data in chuncks larger than 700K, and I find I use my syquest as another drive rather than a backup device. So now I have even more data to backup. Floptical disks are rather expensive right now but are supposed to be in the $10 range soon. Patrick
#73138From: Christopher LapriseOct 11, 1992 1:50 AM
No.. CrossDOS is just for using 1.44MB HD disks on the Insite drive (unless you have some perverse preference for MS-DOS over FFS on flopticals). The Insite should run straight off the SCSI device. -Chris
#73156From: Michael GerardOct 11, 1992 9:15 AM
Chris- right…. I was thinking of msdos formatted disks (which wasn't the question…opps)… btw, I beleive that CrossDos will also read/write those 1.88 meg msdos flopticals.
#73250From: Joanne DowOct 12, 1992 2:25 AM
CrossDos will read and write all MS-DOS formatted disks. It will not format harddisks or things with "odd" formats because the license fee for the FDISK portions of the disk is apparently ruinous and Consultron cannot afford to pay them. So format and partition disks on an MS-DOS machine if you want to use them on MS-DOS and Amiga machines if they are other than standard floppies. {@_@}
#73326From: Jonathan HirschmanOct 12, 1992 10:10 PM
Joanne, I've heard that its possible to use CrossDos to format a SyQuest…not true? Jonathan Jonathan, via AutoPilot // Only Amiga makes \\// it possible…
#73435From: Christopher LapriseOct 14, 1992 3:15 AM
"btw, I beleive that CrossDos will also read/write those 1.88 meg msdos flopticals." Never heard of such a beast.. You mean 1.44meg HD disks? -Chris
#73438From: Michael GerardOct 14, 1992 6:24 AM
Whoops, mixing media in that sentence… meant the 1.88 meg floppies (but had the 10 & 21 meg flopticals on the brain).
#73480From: Christopher LapriseOct 14, 1992 4:24 PM
"1.88 meg floppies" Still never heard of it. Are you talking MSDOS or AmigaDOS? I thought the AmigaDOS 2MB HD disks formatted out to 1.7MB whereas MSDOS 2MB disks format to 1.44. And then there are the new 4MB floppies (which format to 2.88MB under MSDOS).. I don't think the floptical can deal with these 4MB disks yet. Gee, I guess we'll have to settle for 21MB ;^) -Chris
#73505From: Michael GerardOct 14, 1992 9:43 PM
Chris: I'm confusing the heck out of myself now… I remember reading something about an larger capacity floppy for msdos machines that CrossDos could handle, but I'm out of town right now and can't check it out until tomorrow… When I get home, I'll check it out and post a msg with the correct info… sorry for all the confusion <sigh> and for pointing my mis-statements out!
#73593From: michel beausejourOct 15, 1992 9:21 PM
well , a matter of fact these drives were aimed at the IBM market,and they support the 720k,1,44 and the 21MB (as per their tech support). But they are workink on the 40MB which will be release in a year time frame. Bye Michel
#73541From: Paul ToalOct 15, 1992 5:55 AM
Mike and Chris, What is the going mail-order cost for flopticals in packs of ten? –Paul Still on AutoPilot
#73596From: Michael GerardOct 15, 1992 9:35 PM
Paul… I really have no idea, as I don't have a fploptical drive… Miek Schiller used to some Konica drives… maybe he has a lead on some flopticals.
#73755From: Christopher LapriseOct 18, 1992 12:27 AM
I just ordered 3 flopticals from DMI.. still $20 apiece. Don't know about volume pricing.. I'll have a total of 10 disks when the 3 new ones come in. -Chris
#74025From: Dave CinegeOct 20, 1992 11:02 PM
No such floppy…..there are, however, 2.88 meg floppies extra high density their called….I don't know if cross-dos can read them…but I do know a normal or dual-speed amiga drive can't. Dave Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 – via Whap!
#74063From: Michael GerardOct 21, 1992 9:37 AM
OK… just to clarify: Cross-Dos will read/write data on regular Amiga floppy drives, the new HD Amiga floppy drive, in both 720K and 1.44 meg formats, as well as the 20 meg msdos and Amiga floptical drives. The lterature I have does not mention any support for the new msdos 2.88 meg floppy's.
#73137From: Christopher LapriseOct 11, 1992 1:49 AM
Derek, I have an Insite floptical and it works straight off of my A3000 SCSI connector. I simply used HDToolbox to read-in the drive's parameters, low-level format, then partition the drive. After partitioning, a simple "format drive idh0: name bigstuff ffs quick" did the trick. The format,partition,format steps must be made with each flopitcal diskette. I think the key is in using whatever format/partitioning program that was provided with your DataFlyer. -Chris